I am looking to get a new laptop...and evrything has Vista installed. I have
been doing reading and know a few people who have it and don't think I really
want it. I am very happy with my windows XP. Would it be difficult to have
Vista removed from laptop and then have XP installed on it?

Thanks,

"marpa" <marpa.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I am looking to get a new laptop...and evrything has Vista installed. I
have
> been doing reading and know a few people who have it and don't think I
really
> want it. I am very happy with my windows XP. Would it be difficult to
have
> Vista removed from laptop and then have XP installed on it?
>
> Thanks,
>
>

No...
if you do a quick google search you should find plenty of laptops that have
XP.

I don't know why you'd want to pay for Vista and not use it...
then purchase XP and install it. Sounds like a waste of time and money.

What I suggest is just purchase a laptop with XP already on it...
or else perhaps...wait for a little while and see how Vista with SP1 stacks
up.
If it gets generally good reviews...then maybe go for a Vista laptop

I was looking into that the other day for a friend.
There were a few XP laptops available, but they
were all relatively expensive. In looking at the
Vista laptops I noticed that a number of them had
SATA hard disks, which will present a challenge.
Then there seem to also be some hardware items,
such as newer graphic chips/cards, that don't have
XP drivers. If it were me I'd pick one or more
preferences and then research the hardware for each
before making a decision.

(SATA is a new standard for connecting hard disks
to the motherboard - serial ATA. I don't know of any
advantages, other than the ability to connect more
items than is possible with standard IDE connections.
On the down side, you need a specially prepared
installation CD to put XP on an SATA disk.)


> I am looking to get a new laptop...and evrything has Vista installed. I
have
> been doing reading and know a few people who have it and don't think I
really
> want it. I am very happy with my windows XP. Would it be difficult to
have
> Vista removed from laptop and then have XP installed on it?
>
> Thanks,
>
>

"mayayana" <mayaXXyana1a.TakeThisOut@mindXXspring.com> wrote in message
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> I was looking into that the other day for a friend.
> There were a few XP laptops available, but they
> were all relatively expensive. In looking at the
> Vista laptops I noticed that a number of them had
> SATA hard disks, which will present a challenge.
> Then there seem to also be some hardware items,
> such as newer graphic chips/cards, that don't have
> XP drivers. If it were me I'd pick one or more
> preferences and then research the hardware for each
> before making a decision.
>
> (SATA is a new standard for connecting hard disks
> to the motherboard - serial ATA. I don't know of any
> advantages, other than the ability to connect more
> items than is possible with standard IDE connections.
> On the down side, you need a specially prepared
> installation CD to put XP on an SATA disk.)
>
>
>> I am looking to get a new laptop...and evrything has Vista installed. I
> have
>> been doing reading and know a few people who have it and don't think I
> really
>> want it. I am very happy with my windows XP. Would it be difficult to
> have
>> Vista removed from laptop and then have XP installed on it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>
>
>

You are a moron. NOTHING you just spewed out is true.

Thanks Mike...I downloaded and ran the advisor as you suggested and the only
problems found were with things that I don't use...LOL So I guess I just
might give the Vista a chance after all. I did read here where somone had a
problem with his USB ports not working....I DO hope that is not a normal
thing. I DO use those frequently!

Thanks again for this advice! I feel more secure in the thought of Vista now.



"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:

> "marpa" <marpa.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:684166AE-859D-45CB-9A1D-C4D0FE2A2E3A@microsoft.com...
> >I am looking to get a new laptop...and evrything has Vista installed. I
> >have
> > been doing reading and know a few people who have it and don't think I
> > really
> > want it. I am very happy with my windows XP. Would it be difficult to
> > have
> > Vista removed from laptop and then have XP installed on it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
>
>
> Run the Vista adviser on your present laptop..
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/up...deadvis
>
> Ignore anything regarding the hardware. If all software works other than
> what was pre-installed by the OEM is ok, then go ahead and get a Vista
> machine. XP will not be around forever, and sooner or later you will have to
> make the change to something different. That time mat as well be now.
>
> Liking an OS is very subjective, so where the views of others are useful,
> you may find that you get along with it well..
>
> --
> Mike Hall - MVP
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>
>
>
>
>

"marpa" <marpa.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:684166AE-859D-45CB-9A1D-C4D0FE2A2E3A@microsoft.com...
>I am looking to get a new laptop...and evrything has Vista installed. I
>have
> been doing reading and know a few people who have it and don't think I
> really
> want it. I am very happy with my windows XP. Would it be difficult to
> have
> Vista removed from laptop and then have XP installed on it?
>
> Thanks,
>
>


Run the Vista adviser on your present laptop..

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/up...deadvis

Ignore anything regarding the hardware. If all software works other than
what was pre-installed by the OEM is ok, then go ahead and get a Vista
machine. XP will not be around forever, and sooner or later you will have to
make the change to something different. That time mat as well be now.

Liking an OS is very subjective, so where the views of others are useful,
you may find that you get along with it well..

--
Mike Hall - MVP
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

Hi,

Many companies still will install XP if asked. Select a model you like, then
contact the manufacturer directly to see if they will do the downgrade for
you as part of the purchase. Don't buy one at a store hoping to downgrade
later.

Keep in mind that many that are unhappy with Vista are so because they
installed it on inadequate hardware, or want to run older software that just
simply is not compatible. Personally,

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"marpa" <marpa.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:684166AE-859D-45CB-9A1D-C4D0FE2A2E3A@microsoft.com...
>I am looking to get a new laptop...and evrything has Vista installed. I
>have
> been doing reading and know a few people who have it and don't think I
> really
> want it. I am very happy with my windows XP. Would it be difficult to
> have
> Vista removed from laptop and then have XP installed on it?
>
> Thanks,
>
>

Can't I use my XP CD that I already own? I was just wondering about all of
this before I purchase anything. Better an informed decision, you know? I
have gotten much information here to think about....and most of it was
good...LOL

Thank you all!

"Phisherman" wrote:

> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 05:11:01 -0800, marpa
> <marpa.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >I am looking to get a new laptop...and evrything has Vista installed. I have
> >been doing reading and know a few people who have it and don't think I really
> >want it. I am very happy with my windows XP. Would it be difficult to have
> >Vista removed from laptop and then have XP installed on it?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
>
> No, it is not difficult. But, expect to purchase an XP license. An
> OEM license (for XP Home) can be had for about $90+free shipping from
> zipzoomfly. I recommend Vista for a new PC, unless you have
> important legacy hardware/software. Despite negativity, Vista does
> have some very good features that XP does not.
>

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 05:11:01 -0800, marpa
<marpa.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I am looking to get a new laptop...and evrything has Vista installed. I have
>been doing reading and know a few people who have it and don't think I really
>want it. I am very happy with my windows XP. Would it be difficult to have
>Vista removed from laptop and then have XP installed on it?
>
>Thanks,
>

No, it is not difficult. But, expect to purchase an XP license. An
OEM license (for XP Home) can be had for about $90+free shipping from
zipzoomfly. I recommend Vista for a new PC, unless you have
important legacy hardware/software. Despite negativity, Vista does
have some very good features that XP does not.

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 05:11:01 -0800, marpa
<marpa.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I am looking to get a new laptop...and evrything has Vista installed. I have
>been doing reading and know a few people who have it and don't think I really
>want it. I am very happy with my windows XP. Would it be difficult to have
>Vista removed from laptop and then have XP installed on it?
>
>Thanks,
>


No it is not hard, and XP is the way to go. Unless you are getting a
high performance laptop you are going to hate Vista.

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 05:11:01 -0800, marpa
<marpa.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> I am looking to get a new laptop...and evrything has Vista installed. I have
> been doing reading and know a few people who have it and don't think I really
> want it. I am very happy with my windows XP. Would it be difficult to have
> Vista removed from laptop and then have XP installed on it?


Several points:

1. Whatever piece of software you're talking about, whether an
application or an operating system, you can always find people who
don't like it. That's especially true when it's new.

2. Vista needs more powerful hardware than XP (in particular it needs
considerably more RAM--I recommend 2GB for most people). Most people
who have problems with Vista are running it on inadequate hardware. Or
they are using it with older peripherals or applications.

3. I've been running Vista since RTM in November of 2006. I've had no
problems with it and I'm very happy with it.

4. If you were asking whether to upgrade an existing computer to
Vista, my advice would be to make sure you needed to upgrade and to
consider staying where you are. But to me it makes no sense to get a
new computer with yesterday's operating system. As new applications
and new peripherals come out, they may not be supported on XP, and you
will probably find yourself upgrading to Vista later anyway.

5. But if you do decide to downgrade, make sure that XP drivers are
available for all the hardware on the computer, and for all the
peripherals you want to use with it. Particularly with a laptop, it's
often true that you won't be able to get the needed drivers.

6. Check with the laptop manufacturer. You may find that they will
consider that changing the operating system voids your warranty.

7. Finally, if you want a laptop with XP, the best way to get it is to
buy it that way. Dell stills sells XP laptops, and probably other
vendors do too.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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"marpa" <marpa.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks Mike...I downloaded and ran the advisor as you suggested and the
only
> problems found were with things that I don't use...LOL So I guess I just
> might give the Vista a chance after all. I did read here where somone had
a
> problem with his USB ports not working....I DO hope that is not a normal
> thing. I DO use those frequently!
>
> Thanks again for this advice! I feel more secure in the thought of Vista
now.
>
>


I've done a few Vista "test" installs and though I'd still recommend waiting
until SP1 is out...
Vista does not have any USB problems that I've ever been aware of

I've just been going through the exercise. There are Dell Vostro computers
still available with XP that are relatively cheap. Don't get the version
with the AMD chipset though, get the Intel.

Also I talked with HP about selected low end machines from them. While they
won't sell them with XP, some of them will still run XP (i.e. have all the
necessary drivers available). You can't just buy any Vista machine and
expect to run XP on it without first verifying driver availability. Sony
and Toshiba for example told me they will not support XP on their hardware.

In the end I bought an HP/Compaq C751NR (Compaq C700 series will run XP says
HP). My plan was to buy it, try it for awhile, then load XP on it if Vista
was insufferable. I must say however that thus far I've found Vista usable.
I spent the first 6 hours with the machine figuring out how to turn off all
the Vista graphics and stuff I didn't want anyhow, and figuring out how to
configure it to give me the old "classic" windows interface so it looks like
my old XP machines. Having done all that I'm happy enough that I'll
probably live with the Vista.

The only thing I've stumbled across thus far which is an egregious poke in
the eye to an XP user is that they "improved" the OE email program so it no
longer supports multiple identities. Microsoft would say you should be
using multiple Vista login accounts anyhow, but darn it all I want is a
plain old single user setup with no logon. Vista lets you do that, but then
you're stuck with no multiple email identities. Grumble, grumble... I'll
just move to someone else's email software I guess.

To the good however, Vista seems to have improved file sharing network
security over XP.

Good luck with your search...

Bill
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"marpa" <marpa.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I am looking to get a new laptop...and evrything has Vista installed. I
>have
> been doing reading and know a few people who have it and don't think I
> really
> want it. I am very happy with my windows XP. Would it be difficult to
> have
> Vista removed from laptop and then have XP installed on it?
>
> Thanks,
>
>

In article <#fyF27BYIHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
mayayana <mayaXXyana1a DeleteThis @mindXXspring.com> wrote:
>
>(SATA is a new standard for connecting hard disks
>to the motherboard - serial ATA. I don't know of any
>advantages, other than the ability to connect more

3x faster transfers. Simpler cabling. Smarter controllers.

>
> 3x faster transfers.

Hate to nit-pick, but not really true. Three times the headroom on the data
link, yes. But the bandwidth on the old ATA bus comfortably exceeds the
sustained throughput a hard disk can develop.

So a SATA hard drive on a SATA bus performs virtually identically to an
equivalent ATA model on an ATA bus. The only difference is in the
incredibly brief interval when the drive is being read from its internal
buffer. A SATA bus can definitely pull from that buffer faster.

The main benefit for SATA is its (relative) future-proofness, plus the more
compact cabling and connectors.

SteveT