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Double DUFUS to you

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> Joe cann wrote:
>
>> You DUFUS
>>
> What's wrong crunch...can't deal with the truth?
> Try it...you just might learn something.
> Frank

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Double DUFUS to you

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> Joe cann wrote:
>
>> You DUFUS
>>
> What's wrong crunch...can't deal with the truth?
> Try it...you just might learn something.
> Frank

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Joe cann wrote:
> Double DUFUS to you

Ah geeze whiz...craw back into your cardboard space ship...you'll get
over it.
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"Joe cann" wrote:

> Good question.. and here is how you should go to about it...
>
> Buy Vista with DOWNGRADE rights with a Laptop that has drivers and support
> for BOTH XP and Vista...
>
> read the above sentence carefully!
>
> With Downgrade rights you can install XP OR VISTA on the same machine (but
> not at the same time)
>
> for example you can install XP now that works well, and then after some time
> install Vista (after the millions of bugs get removed - if ever)
>
> In order to have Downgrade rights you must get Vista Business or Vista
> ultimate...
>
> but its best of both worlds and gives you so much flexibility...
>
>
> "marpa" <marpa RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:684166AE-859D-45CB-9A1D-C4D0FE2A2E3A@microsoft.com...
> >I am looking to get a new laptop...and evrything has Vista installed. I
> >have
> > been doing reading and know a few people who have it and don't think I
> > really
> > want it. I am very happy with my windows XP. Would it be difficult to
> > have
> > Vista removed from laptop and then have XP installed on it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
>
>
> I've got Windows XP on my desktop computer. Do you think I could just reinstall/install those discs onto my new laptop which currently runs Vista? I don't really like Vista and all of the other programs I use or spent money on don't run in Vista.

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"Joe cann" wrote:

> Good question.. and here is how you should go to about it...
>
> Buy Vista with DOWNGRADE rights with a Laptop that has drivers and support
> for BOTH XP and Vista...
>
> read the above sentence carefully!
>
> With Downgrade rights you can install XP OR VISTA on the same machine (but
> not at the same time)
>
> for example you can install XP now that works well, and then after some time
> install Vista (after the millions of bugs get removed - if ever)
>
> In order to have Downgrade rights you must get Vista Business or Vista
> ultimate...
>
> but its best of both worlds and gives you so much flexibility...
>
>
> "marpa" <marpa RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:684166AE-859D-45CB-9A1D-C4D0FE2A2E3A@microsoft.com...
> >I am looking to get a new laptop...and evrything has Vista installed. I
> >have
> > been doing reading and know a few people who have it and don't think I
> > really
> > want it. I am very happy with my windows XP. Would it be difficult to
> > have
> > Vista removed from laptop and then have XP installed on it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
>
>
> I've got Windows XP on my desktop computer. Do you think I could just reinstall/install those discs onto my new laptop which currently runs Vista? I don't really like Vista and all of the other programs I use or spent money on don't run in Vista.

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Rocket <Rocket.33v5nc.RemoveThis@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in
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> Issues:
> Vista does not support DCC (direct cable connection) between two
> computers, even if they are BOTH Vista computers.

You'd be hard pressed to find two Vista-supported computers that came
without network cards. Perhaps a crossover network cable is a better
solution?

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Rocket wrote:

> I have to go with Demonkey on this. 95% of everyone I have come in
> contact with that has Vista, is now looking for some way to slit their
> wrist or open a major artery. Even my boss who bought 3 new computers
> was told he HAD to have vista on them because they dont sell computers
> with XP on them anymore.
>
> Issues:
> Vista does not support DCC (direct cable connection) between two
> computers, even if they are BOTH Vista computers.
>
> Vista and other software packaged with it has several annoying "needs
> access to internet to update" messages which cant be disabled. (two
> computers at work will never be connected tot he internet)
>
> Vista was released FAR before it was a solid OS because there was a
> deadline to meet and you will get all your bug fixes and patches thru
> the internet (if you have internet) over the course of the life of
> Vista even though the NEW OS. "Windows 7" "Fiji" and "Vienna" are all
> windows OS's that were started even before Vista was released. (Fiji is
> more of a tuneup to Vista)
>
> Vista owners have to "relearn" windows because of the massive rework of
> the start menu and control panel areas, with no specific benefit of
> doing so.
>
> Each release of Windows OS costs roughly $400
>
> My suggestion? Get a Mac. Each OS release is only $129, is fully
> functional, doesnt estrange the user from the last version, doesnt
> require massive updates, Networks to "any" computer system (windows,
> linux, unix, ubuntu, etc) supports DCC to ANY computer system, does not
> require internet access to "fully operate". The list is incredibly
> long.
>
> Other known issues with Windows: The Windows OS is all there is.
>
> Mac goes beyond just an OS, with Apple TV, iPod/Touch, , iPhone, Time
> MAchine, Time Capsule (backup appliance(server grade HD) + Airport
> extreme base station)), Apple TV Take 2.
>
> Windows gets viruses (Mac doesnt, ever)
>
> Windows Vista owners are posting the largest number of owners
> downgrading back to XP (Mac users downgrade? where?)
>
> Windows doesnt have any Free Software Upgrades or Updates (iPhones and
> iPod)
>
> Windows offers TV shows and Movies with over 125 million sold tv shows
> and 7 million movies sold and rents movies to you over the internet
> downloaded right to your PC from the top 11 Movie Studios....no
> wait...thats all Apple only.
>
> Microsoft offers.....an OS (with no mac compatibility)
> Apple offers .....Mac Pro, iMac, Mac mini, Macbook, Macbook Pro,
> Macbook Air(thinnest in the world), iPod/nano/shuffle/classic/touch,
> iPhone, Apple TV, AirPort Extreme, Time Capsule(1 TB), and Microsoft
> software (2008 Office, Messenger, Excel, Word) Adobe Acrobat 8 Pro,
> Movie Purchase/rental and download directly to your Computer, iPod,
> Laptop, iPhone or HD TV(from your HDTV)
>
> So ya, Vista OS and Microsoft...so solid.
> We wont even go into connectivity to Bluetooth in Windows, its
> non-existent.
>
>
You don't actually have Vista do you? You're a mac-attack troll...LOL!
Frank

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Rocket <Rocket.33v5nc.DeleteThis@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in
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> Issues:
> Vista does not support DCC (direct cable connection) between two
> computers, even if they are BOTH Vista computers.

You'd be hard pressed to find two Vista-supported computers that came
without network cards. Perhaps a crossover network cable is a better
solution?

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Rocket wrote:

> I have to go with Demonkey on this. 95% of everyone I have come in
> contact with that has Vista, is now looking for some way to slit their
> wrist or open a major artery. Even my boss who bought 3 new computers
> was told he HAD to have vista on them because they dont sell computers
> with XP on them anymore.
>
> Issues:
> Vista does not support DCC (direct cable connection) between two
> computers, even if they are BOTH Vista computers.
>
> Vista and other software packaged with it has several annoying "needs
> access to internet to update" messages which cant be disabled. (two
> computers at work will never be connected tot he internet)
>
> Vista was released FAR before it was a solid OS because there was a
> deadline to meet and you will get all your bug fixes and patches thru
> the internet (if you have internet) over the course of the life of
> Vista even though the NEW OS. "Windows 7" "Fiji" and "Vienna" are all
> windows OS's that were started even before Vista was released. (Fiji is
> more of a tuneup to Vista)
>
> Vista owners have to "relearn" windows because of the massive rework of
> the start menu and control panel areas, with no specific benefit of
> doing so.
>
> Each release of Windows OS costs roughly $400
>
> My suggestion? Get a Mac. Each OS release is only $129, is fully
> functional, doesnt estrange the user from the last version, doesnt
> require massive updates, Networks to "any" computer system (windows,
> linux, unix, ubuntu, etc) supports DCC to ANY computer system, does not
> require internet access to "fully operate". The list is incredibly
> long.
>
> Other known issues with Windows: The Windows OS is all there is.
>
> Mac goes beyond just an OS, with Apple TV, iPod/Touch, , iPhone, Time
> MAchine, Time Capsule (backup appliance(server grade HD) + Airport
> extreme base station)), Apple TV Take 2.
>
> Windows gets viruses (Mac doesnt, ever)
>
> Windows Vista owners are posting the largest number of owners
> downgrading back to XP (Mac users downgrade? where?)
>
> Windows doesnt have any Free Software Upgrades or Updates (iPhones and
> iPod)
>
> Windows offers TV shows and Movies with over 125 million sold tv shows
> and 7 million movies sold and rents movies to you over the internet
> downloaded right to your PC from the top 11 Movie Studios....no
> wait...thats all Apple only.
>
> Microsoft offers.....an OS (with no mac compatibility)
> Apple offers .....Mac Pro, iMac, Mac mini, Macbook, Macbook Pro,
> Macbook Air(thinnest in the world), iPod/nano/shuffle/classic/touch,
> iPhone, Apple TV, AirPort Extreme, Time Capsule(1 TB), and Microsoft
> software (2008 Office, Messenger, Excel, Word) Adobe Acrobat 8 Pro,
> Movie Purchase/rental and download directly to your Computer, iPod,
> Laptop, iPhone or HD TV(from your HDTV)
>
> So ya, Vista OS and Microsoft...so solid.
> We wont even go into connectivity to Bluetooth in Windows, its
> non-existent.
>
>
You don't actually have Vista do you? You're a mac-attack troll...LOL!
Frank

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I have to go with Demonkey on this. 95% of everyone I have come in
contact with that has Vista, is now looking for some way to slit their
wrist or open a major artery. Even my boss who bought 3 new computers
was told he HAD to have vista on them because they dont sell computers
with XP on them anymore.

Issues:
Vista does not support DCC (direct cable connection) between two
computers, even if they are BOTH Vista computers.

Vista and other software packaged with it has several annoying "needs
access to internet to update" messages which cant be disabled. (two
computers at work will never be connected tot he internet)

Vista was released FAR before it was a solid OS because there was a
deadline to meet and you will get all your bug fixes and patches thru
the internet (if you have internet) over the course of the life of
Vista even though the NEW OS. "Windows 7" "Fiji" and "Vienna" are all
windows OS's that were started even before Vista was released. (Fiji is
more of a tuneup to Vista)

Vista owners have to "relearn" windows because of the massive rework of
the start menu and control panel areas, with no specific benefit of
doing so.

Each release of Windows OS costs roughly $400

My suggestion? Get a Mac. Each OS release is only $129, is fully
functional, doesnt estrange the user from the last version, doesnt
require massive updates, Networks to "any" computer system (windows,
linux, unix, ubuntu, etc) supports DCC to ANY computer system, does not
require internet access to "fully operate". The list is incredibly
long.

Other known issues with Windows: The Windows OS is all there is.

Mac goes beyond just an OS, with Apple TV, iPod/Touch, , iPhone, Time
MAchine, Time Capsule (backup appliance(server grade HD) + Airport
extreme base station)), Apple TV Take 2.

Windows gets viruses (Mac doesnt, ever)

Windows Vista owners are posting the largest number of owners
downgrading back to XP (Mac users downgrade? where?)

Windows doesnt have any Free Software Upgrades or Updates (iPhones and
iPod)

Windows offers TV shows and Movies with over 125 million sold tv shows
and 7 million movies sold and rents movies to you over the internet
downloaded right to your PC from the top 11 Movie Studios....no
wait...thats all Apple only.

Microsoft offers.....an OS (with no mac compatibility)
Apple offers .....Mac Pro, iMac, Mac mini, Macbook, Macbook Pro,
Macbook Air(thinnest in the world), iPod/nano/shuffle/classic/touch,
iPhone, Apple TV, AirPort Extreme, Time Capsule(1 TB), and Microsoft
software (2008 Office, Messenger, Excel, Word) Adobe Acrobat 8 Pro,
Movie Purchase/rental and download directly to your Computer, iPod,
Laptop, iPhone or HD TV(from your HDTV)

So ya, Vista OS and Microsoft...so solid.
We wont even go into connectivity to Bluetooth in Windows, its
non-existent.


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I have to go with Demonkey on this. 95% of everyone I have come in
contact with that has Vista, is now looking for some way to slit their
wrist or open a major artery. Even my boss who bought 3 new computers
was told he HAD to have vista on them because they dont sell computers
with XP on them anymore.

Issues:
Vista does not support DCC (direct cable connection) between two
computers, even if they are BOTH Vista computers.

Vista and other software packaged with it has several annoying "needs
access to internet to update" messages which cant be disabled. (two
computers at work will never be connected tot he internet)

Vista was released FAR before it was a solid OS because there was a
deadline to meet and you will get all your bug fixes and patches thru
the internet (if you have internet) over the course of the life of
Vista even though the NEW OS. "Windows 7" "Fiji" and "Vienna" are all
windows OS's that were started even before Vista was released. (Fiji is
more of a tuneup to Vista)

Vista owners have to "relearn" windows because of the massive rework of
the start menu and control panel areas, with no specific benefit of
doing so.

Each release of Windows OS costs roughly $400

My suggestion? Get a Mac. Each OS release is only $129, is fully
functional, doesnt estrange the user from the last version, doesnt
require massive updates, Networks to "any" computer system (windows,
linux, unix, ubuntu, etc) supports DCC to ANY computer system, does not
require internet access to "fully operate". The list is incredibly
long.

Other known issues with Windows: The Windows OS is all there is.

Mac goes beyond just an OS, with Apple TV, iPod/Touch, , iPhone, Time
MAchine, Time Capsule (backup appliance(server grade HD) + Airport
extreme base station)), Apple TV Take 2.

Windows gets viruses (Mac doesnt, ever)

Windows Vista owners are posting the largest number of owners
downgrading back to XP (Mac users downgrade? where?)

Windows doesnt have any Free Software Upgrades or Updates (iPhones and
iPod)

Windows offers TV shows and Movies with over 125 million sold tv shows
and 7 million movies sold and rents movies to you over the internet
downloaded right to your PC from the top 11 Movie Studios....no
wait...thats all Apple only.

Microsoft offers.....an OS (with no mac compatibility)
Apple offers .....Mac Pro, iMac, Mac mini, Macbook, Macbook Pro,
Macbook Air(thinnest in the world), iPod/nano/shuffle/classic/touch,
iPhone, Apple TV, AirPort Extreme, Time Capsule(1 TB), and Microsoft
software (2008 Office, Messenger, Excel, Word) Adobe Acrobat 8 Pro,
Movie Purchase/rental and download directly to your Computer, iPod,
Laptop, iPhone or HD TV(from your HDTV)

So ya, Vista OS and Microsoft...so solid.
We wont even go into connectivity to Bluetooth in Windows, its
non-existent.


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googolplex Dufus in the power of a vistillion!

(where 1 vistilion is 10 in the power of a googolplex or the amount of ram
needed in bytes for Vista to work very well)

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> Joe cann wrote:
>> Double DUFUS to you
>
> Ah geeze whiz...craw back into your cardboard space ship...you'll get over
> it.
> Frank

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googolplex Dufus in the power of a vistillion!

(where 1 vistilion is 10 in the power of a googolplex or the amount of ram
needed in bytes for Vista to work very well)

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> Joe cann wrote:
>> Double DUFUS to you
>
> Ah geeze whiz...craw back into your cardboard space ship...you'll get over
> it.
> Frank

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It is the fault of HP, plain and simple! If HP wanted to support the
scanner they would have delivered an HP driver for Vista. Over 100 million
copies sold. How many of your 3-year old HP scanners were sold?

"Bill" <someone DeleteThis @home.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> "graham1cr" <graham1cr DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hkcpp3l8f7da3h1uu08gs07keo9dn9vb84@4ax.com...
>>
>>>Have you ever tried to copy a 10GB file from XP to Vista? Ever try to
>>>install a printer over a year old? Ever try to install Microsoft
>>>software
>>>more than 5 months old?
>>>
>>>Probably NOT.
>>
>>
>>
>> yes - largest file i currently have is 8.85GB, took just under 3 mins
>>
>> yes - my old Canon850i runs perfectly
>>
>> yes - running Office XP no probs
>>
>> graham
>
> you beat me to it Graham. I really don't know where these naysayers get
> their info from.
>
> But to be honest I did have a 3 year old HP scanner that would not work
> under vista. Called Hp about it and they said they did not provide MS with
> a vista driver and they had no intention of releasing any. So whose fault
> is that HP or MS? Maybe monkey brains can shed some light on that!
>
> Bill
>

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Babs Anthony wrote:
> Alias: Please stop buying your crack from South Central LA.

I didn't say I bought crack *anywhere*. If you knew me, you'd know that
I don't want to die and if I were to do crack, with my health situation,
I would die. That said, I have never had the dubious pleasure of smoking
crack. I don't care for drugs. If you knew me, you'd also know I don't
anywhere near South Central LA.

> HP chose
> not to provide the driver for its own reasons--

Yeah, MS wants "Vista Ready" hardware for its Vista.

> most likely because the
> scanner was a poor seller.

I have no idea.

> By the way, where is your friend, Frank?

He posted today. Have you got him kill filed?

Alias
>
> "Alias" <iamalias RemoveThis @removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u6ScR1UYIHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Babs Anthony wrote:
>>> It is the fault of HP, plain and simple! If HP wanted to support the
>>> scanner they would have delivered an HP driver for Vista. Over 100
>>> million copies sold.
>>
>> More kilos of crack are sold every year in South Central LA. So what
>> if MS conned 100 million people to buy a POS?
>>
>>> How many of your 3-year old HP scanners were sold?
>>
>> All of them work with Linux Ubuntu. I wonder why HP provides the
>> drivers for Ubuntu Linux and not Vista? MS doing some strong arming
>> again?
>>
>> Alias
>>>
>>> "Bill" <someone RemoveThis @home.net> wrote in message
>>> news:eCr5VYQYIHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "graham1cr" <graham1cr RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hkcpp3l8f7da3h1uu08gs07keo9dn9vb84@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you ever tried to copy a 10GB file from XP to Vista? Ever
>>>>>> try to
>>>>>> install a printer over a year old? Ever try to install Microsoft
>>>>>> software
>>>>>> more than 5 months old?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably NOT.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> yes - largest file i currently have is 8.85GB, took just under 3 mins
>>>>>
>>>>> yes - my old Canon850i runs perfectly
>>>>>
>>>>> yes - running Office XP no probs
>>>>>
>>>>> graham
>>>>
>>>> you beat me to it Graham. I really don't know where these naysayers
>>>> get their info from.
>>>>
>>>> But to be honest I did have a 3 year old HP scanner that would not
>>>> work under vista. Called Hp about it and they said they did not
>>>> provide MS with a vista driver and they had no intention of
>>>> releasing any. So whose fault is that HP or MS? Maybe monkey brains
>>>> can shed some light on that!
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>

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