You posted a message with a poor subject/title. It is very generic and
doesn't tell anybody anything or ask anything of anyone. It's just a
pointless statement.

Stating that Vista runs on a "Good PC" is also a useless statement. It is
very relative and makes little sense. A "Good PC" to one person mail still
fail all system requirements to run Vista. It doesn't change the fact that
the system is a "Good PC", it just means it can't run Vista.

On the other side, a "Great PC", one being better than a "Good PC", still
may have issues running Vista, simply because the "greatness" or "goodness"
has never been an indicator of how a computer would run a certain operating
system.



"Piet" <pietfo DeleteThis @telkomsa.net> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> After looking at various comments about Vista it is quite clear to me that
> Vista runs very well on a GOOD PC. Something like a quad processor and
> enough 800mhz memory plus a fast front end bus.
>
> It does not perform well on PC's that are short of resources.
>
> It is no use to tell people to go to Linux etc instead of elaborating
> about the hardware being used.
>
> Piet
>
>

"Bill Yanaire" <Bill.DeleteThis@yaniaire.com> wrote in message
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>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_7.DeleteThis@dslr.net> wrote in message news:OX$bKILbIHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> "AlexB" <alexb.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message news:u7ybXrKbIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> I have Vista Ultimate on 3 DELL GX-280
>>
>> Malefactor, you're not supposed to be using your MSDN copies on every day production
>> machines.
>>
>
> Why not? I do it all the time. Do you think Microsquish is going to come over and take my
> computer away?

That's what the MSDN EULA states.

No, Microsoft is not going to come to take away your
computers. It's a matter of integrity and honor.


-Michael

"Piet" <pietfo.RemoveThis@telkomsa.net> wrote in message
news:80DD8857-7E85-4008-BE7C-D56319BD3D52@microsoft.com...
> Hi
>
> After looking at various comments about Vista it is quite clear to me that
> Vista runs very well on a GOOD PC. Something like a quad processor and
> enough 800mhz memory plus a fast front end bus.
>
> It does not perform well on PC's that are short of resources.
>
> It is no use to tell people to go to Linux etc instead of elaborating
> about the hardware being used.
>
> Piet
>
>


Vista performs well on a system where there are ample resources and where
the individual components and software have decent support from the
manufacturers/authors.

A single core machine will run Vista very well. There is no requirement to
have quad core, although it would be nice of course..

--
Mike Hall - MVP
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

MICHAEL wrote:

> "Bill Yanaire" <Bill.DeleteThis@yaniaire.com> wrote in message
> news:Ozgj1ZMbIHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_7.DeleteThis@dslr.net> wrote in message
>> news:OX$bKILbIHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> "AlexB" <alexb.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:u7ybXrKbIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> I have Vista Ultimate on 3 DELL GX-280
>>>
>>> Malefactor, you're not supposed to be using your MSDN copies on every
>>> day production machines.
>>>
>>
>> Why not? I do it all the time. Do you think Microsquish is going to
>> come over and take my computer away?
>
> That's what the MSDN EULA states.
>
> No, Microsoft is not going to come to take away your
> computers. It's a matter of integrity and honor.
>
Michael,

What is interesting is that Bill Yawn continuously slams Linux because it's
FREE (and hence can't be any good), but on the other hand is quite prepared
to abuse Microsoft's EULA in order to use a FREE Vista install. It indeed
does reflect on his integrity.

Cheers.

>
> -Michael

--
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http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

AlexB: "If it is Business or Ultimate open Command Prompt as administrator
and type lusrmgr.msc."
^^^^^
I must say the developers at Microsoft do have a sense of humour.

Hi

After looking at various comments about Vista it is quite clear to me that
Vista runs very well on a GOOD PC. Something like a quad processor and
enough 800mhz memory plus a fast front end bus.

It does not perform well on PC's that are short of resources.

It is no use to tell people to go to Linux etc instead of elaborating about
the hardware being used.

Piet

I think most people are missing the point of your post. They are hung up on
the "quad processor" statement. I agree with your overall message. There is a
small but very loud group of folks here that for some reason can't let us
discuss Vista without trying to badger and insult the group. I'm not sure
why, but I believe their apparently their technical abilities do not let them
productively participate in their own OS forums so they come here to troll
and cause trouble.

The assumption that Vista requires more resources than, say Ubuntu, leads to
the conclusion that Ubuntu runs better (i.e., faster) than Vista on any given
hardware. While this may be true at a high level, your point is well taken
that posting "Use *nix" for every problem that is posted here isn't welcome
or productive without understanding the root cause of the issue (Ubuntu may
not support the hardware). Occasionally the OP does reply back to say that
they are using XYZ tuner card or ABC software that isn't supported on a *nix
platform and the silence from the open source zealots is deafening.

Not all of us have drank the kool-aid. We're here because we want to be.

Keep posting!

"Piet" wrote:

> Hi
>
> After looking at various comments about Vista it is quite clear to me that
> Vista runs very well on a GOOD PC. Something like a quad processor and
> enough 800mhz memory plus a fast front end bus.
>
> It does not perform well on PC's that are short of resources.
>
> It is no use to tell people to go to Linux etc instead of elaborating about
> the hardware being used.
>
> Piet
>
>

Quad processor? That's a bit extreme, I think. I've had it running on a
single core processor at about 2gHz with 1GB of memory and have been pretty
pleased with the result for everyday use.

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"Piet" <pietfo.DeleteThis@telkomsa.net> wrote in message
news:80DD8857-7E85-4008-BE7C-D56319BD3D52@microsoft.com...
> Hi
>
> After looking at various comments about Vista it is quite clear to me that
> Vista runs very well on a GOOD PC. Something like a quad processor and
> enough 800mhz memory plus a fast front end bus.
>
> It does not perform well on PC's that are short of resources.
>
> It is no use to tell people to go to Linux etc instead of elaborating
> about the hardware being used.
>
> Piet
>
>

All new computers with ample ram can run any OS well. Technology moves
on and as it does so does the computer hardware being sold and used.
Some people like to stay with XP because that OS works on thier computer
so why move. I have two computers one with XP and one with Vista.

The problem alot of people have is they do not know how to run an
upgrade advisor to tell them if thier computer will run vista.
Or they get the 64bit version to find out they can not get drivers.
If people planned better they would not have so many problems.


--
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- Core 2 Quad Q6600
- Abit IP35 Pro
- 4 x 1GB OcUK PC2-6400 C5 800 MHZ Dual Channel
- Leadtek GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB GDDR3
- CiBox TFT 22" Widescreen LCD Panel. 1680 x 1050
- Creative X-Fi 7.1 PCI-E
- Antec 900 Ultimate Gaming Case
- Creative Inspire 7.1 T7900 Speakers
- Corsair HX 620W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Complient PSU

Richard G. Harper;609067 Wrote:
> Quad processor? That's a bit extreme, I think. I've had it running on a
> single core processor at about 2gHz with 1GB of memory and have been
> pretty
> pleased with the result for everyday use.
>
> Stick another gig of memory in and see the difference.


--
silver

"AlexB" <alexb DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message news:u7ybXrKbIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> I have Vista Ultimate on 3 DELL GX-280

Malefactor, you're not supposed to be using your MSDN copies
on every day production machines.



-Michael

"MICHAEL" <u158627_7.TakeThisOut@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:OX$bKILbIHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "AlexB" <alexb.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:u7ybXrKbIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> I have Vista Ultimate on 3 DELL GX-280
>
> Malefactor, you're not supposed to be using your MSDN copies on every day
> production machines.
>

Why not? I do it all the time. Do you think Microsquish is going to come
over and take my computer away?

>
> -Michael
>

/Piet/ said:
> Hi
>
> After looking at various comments about Vista it is quite clear to me that
> Vista runs very well on a GOOD PC. Something like a quad processor and
> enough 800mhz memory plus a fast front end bus.
>
> It does not perform well on PC's that are short of resources.
>
> It is no use to tell people to go to Linux etc instead of elaborating about
> the hardware being used.
>
> Piet

Echoing others who have responded, this is a four-year old Pentium 4
with a NVidia 5200 (128) video card...
I do not game or use video-intensive applications, but do run the usual
programs, scanner/printer typical of many users. A 22" LCD is in service.

Truthfully, I have never seen a machine that is more responsive than
this one, even at the office. (Probably because of all the
virus/malware checking there). XP, also on this box, feels similarly
responsive. For my purposes, there is no pressing need for quad
architecture at this time.

I have Vista Ultimate on 3 DELL GX-280 (4 years old), 80 Gb HDD (C =) , 3.8
Ghz of CPU, 2Gb RAM. Works well, better than XP on another partition (extra
SATA HDD installed).

"Piet" <pietfo.RemoveThis@telkomsa.net> wrote in message
news:80DD8857-7E85-4008-BE7C-D56319BD3D52@microsoft.com...
> Hi
>
> After looking at various comments about Vista it is quite clear to me that
> Vista runs very well on a GOOD PC. Something like a quad processor and
> enough 800mhz memory plus a fast front end bus.
>
> It does not perform well on PC's that are short of resources.
>
> It is no use to tell people to go to Linux etc instead of elaborating
> about the hardware being used.
>
> Piet
>
>

> I do not produce anything. I am a developer.

Having spent the first part of my life as a developer and now this part of
my life as an administrator, I find the statement above to be unintentionally
hilareous. No insult meant to alexB.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. The world anxiously awaits the results of
your research.

"alexB" wrote:

> It is not production machines. I do not produce anything. I am a developer.
> I purchased a brand new DELL T7400 for what you can remotely call
> production. That "production" is in fact my own research.
>
> You Michael is an idiot who don't understand basics. I've told you many
> times: MS is fully aware of what their MSDN subscribers are doing. If I am
> allowed to download and install software it means I am within legal limits.
> If I install software from a DVD and I enter a product key it means I am
> within Legal Limits. I can entre the same product key a number of time
> within the confines of my private office and home office.
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_7 RemoveThis @dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:OX$bKILbIHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > "AlexB" <alexb RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:u7ybXrKbIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> I have Vista Ultimate on 3 DELL GX-280
> >
> > Malefactor, you're not supposed to be using your MSDN copies on every day
> > production machines.
> >
> >
> > -Michael
> >
>
>