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Alias
Joined: 25 May 2007
Posts: 69
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 Upgrade to XP
dirk.devos.DeleteThis-AT-usa.net wrote:
> I believe that all 3 the computers should be able to run XP from a
> hardware standpoint. If I need to I can upgrade them to meet the
> requirements. The reason for wanting Pro is that I can not find out
> what the differances are between Home and Pro. If I do use the OEM
> version, do I need to have reciepts for all the hardware or not and if
> I later change some of the hardware, do I need to get new copies
> again. The main reason for the upgrade for my kids is that their iPod
> and phones need some functionality provided in XP. I do have the
> Windows ME disc if that helps.
You can update a computer's hardware with a generic OEM XP installed as
much as you want. Pro can join a domain. Home can't. Pro can support ten
computers on a network, Home can only support five. Pro comes with a
very lame back up program, Home doesn't. I suspect you only need Home.
Minimum specs for XP would be at least 512MB RAM and at least a Pentium
III with 800Mhz of processor speed or more. XP will run with less but
very, very slowly.
Alias
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| Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:12 pm |
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Alias
Joined: 25 May 2007
Posts: 69
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 Upgrade to XP
dirk.devos RemoveThis @usa.net wrote:
> I believe that all 3 the computers should be able to run XP from a
> hardware standpoint. If I need to I can upgrade them to meet the
> requirements. The reason for wanting Pro is that I can not find out
> what the differances are between Home and Pro. If I do use the OEM
> version, do I need to have reciepts for all the hardware or not and if
> I later change some of the hardware, do I need to get new copies
> again. The main reason for the upgrade for my kids is that their iPod
> and phones need some functionality provided in XP. I do have the
> Windows ME disc if that helps.
You can update a computer's hardware with a generic OEM XP installed as
much as you want. Pro can join a domain. Home can't. Pro can support ten
computers on a network, Home can only support five. Pro comes with a
very lame back up program, Home doesn't. I suspect you only need Home.
Minimum specs for XP would be at least 512MB RAM and at least a Pentium
III with 800Mhz of processor speed or more. XP will run with less but
very, very slowly.
Alias
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| Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:12 pm |
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Alias
Joined: 25 May 2007
Posts: 69
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 Upgrade to XP
DL wrote:
> OEM cannot be transfered to a new PC
Not and abide by the EULA. Technically, however, generic XP OEMs can be
moved if the last activation was over 120 days prior to the move. It
will activate fine and even pass WGA in all its flavors.
Alias
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> <dirk.devos DeleteThis @usa.net> wrote in message
> news:07122c83-292d-45f6-8925-6f174e2e2597@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> I believe that all 3 the computers should be able to run XP from a
>> hardware standpoint. If I need to I can upgrade them to meet the
>> requirements. The reason for wanting Pro is that I can not find out
>> what the differances are between Home and Pro. If I do use the OEM
>> version, do I need to have reciepts for all the hardware or not and if
>> I later change some of the hardware, do I need to get new copies
>> again. The main reason for the upgrade for my kids is that their iPod
>> and phones need some functionality provided in XP. I do have the
>> Windows ME disc if that helps.
>
>
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| Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:34 pm |
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Alias
Joined: 25 May 2007
Posts: 69
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 Upgrade to XP
DL wrote:
> OEM cannot be transfered to a new PC
Not and abide by the EULA. Technically, however, generic XP OEMs can be
moved if the last activation was over 120 days prior to the move. It
will activate fine and even pass WGA in all its flavors.
Alias
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> <dirk.devos RemoveThis @usa.net> wrote in message
> news:07122c83-292d-45f6-8925-6f174e2e2597@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> I believe that all 3 the computers should be able to run XP from a
>> hardware standpoint. If I need to I can upgrade them to meet the
>> requirements. The reason for wanting Pro is that I can not find out
>> what the differances are between Home and Pro. If I do use the OEM
>> version, do I need to have reciepts for all the hardware or not and if
>> I later change some of the hardware, do I need to get new copies
>> again. The main reason for the upgrade for my kids is that their iPod
>> and phones need some functionality provided in XP. I do have the
>> Windows ME disc if that helps.
>
>
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| Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:34 pm |
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PA Bear
Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Posts: 113
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 Upgrade to XP
iPod requires WinXP SP2, in fact, which is why IMHO we're seeing so many new
posts about problems installing SP2. Apparently, being secure wasn't enough
impetus but getting the new iPod installed is. <wink>
Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:
> The IPOD needs XP, because Itunes from Apple is required for IPOD to
> download and synch photos and music. Itunes requires XP.
>
> Time to visit the Apple IPOD support site or forums where the experts hang
> out.
>
> <dirk.devos DeleteThis @usa.net> wrote in message
> news:6c4b4c31-b695-4f1d-8ade-fb7002cc3685@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> Both my kids got an Ipod and Pantech Duo and both devices state that
>> they require XP to communicate with a PC. The Pantech Duo needs the
>> active sync function and I am not sure why the iPod needs XP. One
>> thing that I do not want to do is have them use my PC to connect their
>> stuff to. They always seem to get addware, spyware and virusses on
>> their computers and I normally end up doing a clean install on their
>> PCs once every couple of months as their systems get corrupted.
>>
>> If XP Home will recocgnize my dual code CPU, then I do not see any
>> reason to get the Pro version. I will shop around for a retail Upgrade
>> version prices.
>>
>> Thanks again for all the helpfull information.
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| Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:45 pm |
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PA Bear
Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Posts: 113
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 Upgrade to XP
iPod requires WinXP SP2, in fact, which is why IMHO we're seeing so many new
posts about problems installing SP2. Apparently, being secure wasn't enough
impetus but getting the new iPod installed is. <wink>
Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:
> The IPOD needs XP, because Itunes from Apple is required for IPOD to
> download and synch photos and music. Itunes requires XP.
>
> Time to visit the Apple IPOD support site or forums where the experts hang
> out.
>
> <dirk.devos.RemoveThis@usa.net> wrote in message
> news:6c4b4c31-b695-4f1d-8ade-fb7002cc3685@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> Both my kids got an Ipod and Pantech Duo and both devices state that
>> they require XP to communicate with a PC. The Pantech Duo needs the
>> active sync function and I am not sure why the iPod needs XP. One
>> thing that I do not want to do is have them use my PC to connect their
>> stuff to. They always seem to get addware, spyware and virusses on
>> their computers and I normally end up doing a clean install on their
>> PCs once every couple of months as their systems get corrupted.
>>
>> If XP Home will recocgnize my dual code CPU, then I do not see any
>> reason to get the Pro version. I will shop around for a retail Upgrade
>> version prices.
>>
>> Thanks again for all the helpfull information.
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| Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:45 pm |
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PA Bear
Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Posts: 113
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 Upgrade to XP
Here are some helpful references for you:
Upgrading to Windows XP:
http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm
Windows XP Home Edition Upgrade Center:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/upgrading/default.mspx
Five editions of Windows XP compared:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/evaluation/compare.mspx
[To keep track of things, it helps immensely if you include all of previous
message(s) in your replies to the newsgroup. Thank you.]
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
dirk.devos RemoveThis @usa.net wrote:
> I believe that all 3 the computers should be able to run XP from a
> hardware standpoint. If I need to I can upgrade them to meet the
> requirements. The reason for wanting Pro is that I can not find out
> what the differances are between Home and Pro. If I do use the OEM
> version, do I need to have reciepts for all the hardware or not and if
> I later change some of the hardware, do I need to get new copies
> again. The main reason for the upgrade for my kids is that their iPod
> and phones need some functionality provided in XP. I do have the
> Windows ME disc if that helps.
<paste>
PA Bear wrote:
> You first need to determine if any of the WinME machines can run WinXP.
>
> See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316639 and
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/upgrading/advisor.asp
>
> dirk.devos RemoveThis @usa.net wrote:
>> I need to upgrade to XP because of some other software that does not
>> run on anything prior to XP. The problem is that I have 3 computers
>> that I need to upgrade from WIN ME. Two of the computers are for my
>> kids.
>>
>> What is the best / cheapest way to upgrade all to XP Pro if possible.
>> Any ideas / help will be appreciated.
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| Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:52 pm |
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PA Bear
Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Posts: 113
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 Upgrade to XP
Here are some helpful references for you:
Upgrading to Windows XP:
http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm
Windows XP Home Edition Upgrade Center:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/upgrading/default.mspx
Five editions of Windows XP compared:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/evaluation/compare.mspx
[To keep track of things, it helps immensely if you include all of previous
message(s) in your replies to the newsgroup. Thank you.]
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
dirk.devos.TakeThisOut-AT-usa.net wrote:
> I believe that all 3 the computers should be able to run XP from a
> hardware standpoint. If I need to I can upgrade them to meet the
> requirements. The reason for wanting Pro is that I can not find out
> what the differances are between Home and Pro. If I do use the OEM
> version, do I need to have reciepts for all the hardware or not and if
> I later change some of the hardware, do I need to get new copies
> again. The main reason for the upgrade for my kids is that their iPod
> and phones need some functionality provided in XP. I do have the
> Windows ME disc if that helps.
<paste>
PA Bear wrote:
> You first need to determine if any of the WinME machines can run WinXP.
>
> See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316639 and
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/upgrading/advisor.asp
>
> dirk.devos.TakeThisOut-AT-usa.net wrote:
>> I need to upgrade to XP because of some other software that does not
>> run on anything prior to XP. The problem is that I have 3 computers
>> that I need to upgrade from WIN ME. Two of the computers are for my
>> kids.
>>
>> What is the best / cheapest way to upgrade all to XP Pro if possible.
>> Any ideas / help will be appreciated.
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| Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:52 pm |
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Bruce Chambers
Joined: 14 Nov 2007
Posts: 383
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 Upgrade to XP
dirk.devos.DeleteThis-AT-usa.net wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need to upgrade to XP because of some other software that does not
> run on anything prior to XP. The problem is that I have 3 computers
> that I need to upgrade from WIN ME. Two of the computers are for my
> kids.
>
> What is the best / cheapest way to upgrade all to XP Pro if possible.
> Any ideas / help will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Dirk
1) Go to store/shop/web site that sells computer software.
2) Purchase the desired Upgrade version of WinXP, one copy for each
computer to be upgraded.
3) Return home.
4) Insert installation CD in PC's CD drive and follow the on-screen
prompts and instructions to install application and desired additional
features.
WinXP is designed to install and upgrade the existing operating
system while simultaneously preserving your applications and data, and
translating as many personalized settings as possible. The process is
designed to be, and normally is, quite painless. That said, things
can go wrong, in a small number of cases. If your data is at all
important to you, back it up before proceeding.
Have you made sure that your PC's hardware components are capable
of supporting WinXP? This information will be found at the PC's
manufacturer's web site, and on Microsoft's Windows Catalog:
(http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hcl/default.mspx) Additionally, run
Microsoft WinXP Upgrade Advisor to see if you have any incompatible
hardware components or applications.
You should, before proceeding, take a few minutes to ensure that
there are WinXP device drivers available for all of the machine's
components. There may not be, if the PC was specifically designed for
Win98/Me. Also bear in mind that PCs designed for, sold and run fine
with Win9x/Me very often do not meet WinXP's much more stringent
hardware quality requirements. This is particularly true of many
models in Compaq's consumer-class Presario product line or HP's
consumer-class Pavilion product line. WinXP, like WinNT and Win2K
before it, is quite sensitive to borderline defective or substandard
hardware (particularly motherboards, RAM and hard drives) that will
still support Win9x.
HOW TO Prepare to Upgrade Win98 or WinMe
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q316639
Upgrading to Windows XP
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm
--
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
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| Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:54 pm |
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Bruce Chambers
Joined: 14 Nov 2007
Posts: 383
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 Upgrade to XP
dirk.devos RemoveThis @usa.net wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need to upgrade to XP because of some other software that does not
> run on anything prior to XP. The problem is that I have 3 computers
> that I need to upgrade from WIN ME. Two of the computers are for my
> kids.
>
> What is the best / cheapest way to upgrade all to XP Pro if possible.
> Any ideas / help will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Dirk
1) Go to store/shop/web site that sells computer software.
2) Purchase the desired Upgrade version of WinXP, one copy for each
computer to be upgraded.
3) Return home.
4) Insert installation CD in PC's CD drive and follow the on-screen
prompts and instructions to install application and desired additional
features.
WinXP is designed to install and upgrade the existing operating
system while simultaneously preserving your applications and data, and
translating as many personalized settings as possible. The process is
designed to be, and normally is, quite painless. That said, things
can go wrong, in a small number of cases. If your data is at all
important to you, back it up before proceeding.
Have you made sure that your PC's hardware components are capable
of supporting WinXP? This information will be found at the PC's
manufacturer's web site, and on Microsoft's Windows Catalog:
(http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hcl/default.mspx) Additionally, run
Microsoft WinXP Upgrade Advisor to see if you have any incompatible
hardware components or applications.
You should, before proceeding, take a few minutes to ensure that
there are WinXP device drivers available for all of the machine's
components. There may not be, if the PC was specifically designed for
Win98/Me. Also bear in mind that PCs designed for, sold and run fine
with Win9x/Me very often do not meet WinXP's much more stringent
hardware quality requirements. This is particularly true of many
models in Compaq's consumer-class Presario product line or HP's
consumer-class Pavilion product line. WinXP, like WinNT and Win2K
before it, is quite sensitive to borderline defective or substandard
hardware (particularly motherboards, RAM and hard drives) that will
still support Win9x.
HOW TO Prepare to Upgrade Win98 or WinMe
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q316639
Upgrading to Windows XP
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm
--
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
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| Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:54 pm |
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Tim Slattery
Joined: 09 Aug 2007
Posts: 23
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"dirk.devos@usa.net" <dirk.devos DeleteThis @usa.net> wrote:
>My new motherboard has a dual core processor. Seems like the best
>would be to get 3 OEM versions of XP Pro.
Multicores are different from multiprocessors. XP Home supports only
one processor, but that processor may have any number of cores.
--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(Shell/User)
Slattery_T DeleteThis @bls.gov
http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
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| Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:25 am |
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Tim Slattery
Joined: 09 Aug 2007
Posts: 23
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"dirk.devos@usa.net" <dirk.devos RemoveThis @usa.net> wrote:
>My new motherboard has a dual core processor. Seems like the best
>would be to get 3 OEM versions of XP Pro.
Multicores are different from multiprocessors. XP Home supports only
one processor, but that processor may have any number of cores.
--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(Shell/User)
Slattery_T RemoveThis @bls.gov
http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
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