Paul Fedorenko wrote:
> "Mikael Schøler" <QM3mik_s.RemoveThis@tdcadsl.dk> wrote in message
> news:41937c9e$0$150$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk...
> > Well I'm trying out for a combo of longsword/shield and
> > longsword/longsword - tactics being inflict as much damage as
quickly as
> > possible..
>
> If you try pulling a stunt like using two longswords, you're going to
suffer
> massive negatives to your hit rolls, even with feats like
ambidexterity and
> two-weapon fighting (I think that's what they're called). It's
because of
> the weapon size. You'd be better off with a longsword/shortsword
> combination. Always use a small or tiny sized weapon in your off
hand.
> Works much better that way.

.... unless you are a weapon master specialising in a non-small weapon,
in which case you might be just as well off using two of whatever you
do specialise in. The attack and damage bonuses and enhanced crits
should counterbalance the additional -2 penalty on attack rolls.


Hong

Paul Fedorenko wrote:
> "Mikael Schøler" <QM3mik_s RemoveThis @tdcadsl.dk> wrote in message
> news:41937c9e$0$150$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk...
> > Well I'm trying out for a combo of longsword/shield and
> > longsword/longsword - tactics being inflict as much damage as
quickly as
> > possible..
>
> If you try pulling a stunt like using two longswords, you're going to
suffer
> massive negatives to your hit rolls, even with feats like
ambidexterity and
> two-weapon fighting (I think that's what they're called). It's
because of
> the weapon size. You'd be better off with a longsword/shortsword
> combination. Always use a small or tiny sized weapon in your off
hand.
> Works much better that way.

.... unless you are a weapon master specialising in a non-small weapon,
in which case you might be just as well off using two of whatever you
do specialise in. The attack and damage bonuses and enhanced crits
should counterbalance the additional -2 penalty on attack rolls.


Hong

Lance Berg wrote:
> eudas wrote:
>
> >
> > try a Keen scimitar with Improved Critical (scimitar). Threat range
12-20, which
> > amounts to a critical threat approximately 45% of the time (9 of 20
rolls on a
> > 1d20 are a threat).
> >
> > add elemental damage on the sword to that (+1d6 per element), plus
sneak attack
> > dice (depends on rogue levels), plus maybe weapon specialization
(if
> > fighter4+)...
> >
> > eudas
>
> Trouble being that so many mobs are immune to criticals, that putting

> that much effort into outlandishly good crits can backfire on you,
> leaving you with a relatively substandard weapon.


I haven't met that many mobs in Bio's modules that are immune to crits.
Undead, elementals and constructs are it, really. Of these, the super
golems are probably the toughest to deal with. Mind you, I can't say
what the percentage of non-crittable monsters is in user mods.


Hong

Lance Berg wrote:
> eudas wrote:
>
> >
> > try a Keen scimitar with Improved Critical (scimitar). Threat range
12-20, which
> > amounts to a critical threat approximately 45% of the time (9 of 20
rolls on a
> > 1d20 are a threat).
> >
> > add elemental damage on the sword to that (+1d6 per element), plus
sneak attack
> > dice (depends on rogue levels), plus maybe weapon specialization
(if
> > fighter4+)...
> >
> > eudas
>
> Trouble being that so many mobs are immune to criticals, that putting

> that much effort into outlandishly good crits can backfire on you,
> leaving you with a relatively substandard weapon.


I haven't met that many mobs in Bio's modules that are immune to crits.
Undead, elementals and constructs are it, really. Of these, the super
golems are probably the toughest to deal with. Mind you, I can't say
what the percentage of non-crittable monsters is in user mods.


Hong

eudas wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:46:30 +0100, Mikael Schøler <QM3mik_s.RemoveThis@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi NG..
>>
>>I just purchased NwN and are loving it (non McD-related).. I was
>>wondering if there was such a thing as a best weapon? I'm mostly a
>>fighter and a happy with the weapons I use so far.. But its there any
>>weapons I absolutely most find/have or is it a matter of taste?
>>
>>cheers,
>>
>>Mikael
>
>
> try a Keen scimitar with Improved Critical (scimitar). Threat range 12-20, which
> amounts to a critical threat approximately 45% of the time (9 of 20 rolls on a
> 1d20 are a threat).
>
> add elemental damage on the sword to that (+1d6 per element), plus sneak attack
> dice (depends on rogue levels), plus maybe weapon specialization (if
> fighter4+)...
>
> eudas

Trouble being that so many mobs are immune to criticals, that putting
that much effort into outlandishly good crits can backfire on you,
leaving you with a relatively substandard weapon.

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eudas wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:46:30 +0100, Mikael Schøler <QM3mik_s.RemoveThis@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi NG..
>>
>>I just purchased NwN and are loving it (non McD-related).. I was
>>wondering if there was such a thing as a best weapon? I'm mostly a
>>fighter and a happy with the weapons I use so far.. But its there any
>>weapons I absolutely most find/have or is it a matter of taste?
>>
>>cheers,
>>
>>Mikael
>
>
> try a Keen scimitar with Improved Critical (scimitar). Threat range 12-20, which
> amounts to a critical threat approximately 45% of the time (9 of 20 rolls on a
> 1d20 are a threat).
>
> add elemental damage on the sword to that (+1d6 per element), plus sneak attack
> dice (depends on rogue levels), plus maybe weapon specialization (if
> fighter4+)...
>
> eudas

Trouble being that so many mobs are immune to criticals, that putting
that much effort into outlandishly good crits can backfire on you,
leaving you with a relatively substandard weapon.

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"Barry Scott Will" <nwn_usenet.RemoveThis@cavecreations.net> wrote in message
news:EEPkd.601091$8_6.225164@attbi_s04...
> vellu wrote:
> > Two handed style Great axe
> > and Great sword deal fairly equal damage (axe 1d12, sword 2d6) but axe
> > has x3 criticals vs. x2 of the sword.
>
>
> Yes; but, the greatsword has a threat range of 2 (19-20), while the
> greataxe has a threat range of only 1 (20). Mathematically, a higher
> threat range beats a higher crit multiplier in average damage over the
> course of combat. This is especially true if you take the Imp Crit feat,
> and/or get a Keen weapon.
> --
> Barry Scott Will
> Pyric RPG Publications
> http://www.pyric.com/

No.

Let's have a look at it: If you score a critical hit with an twohanded axe,
you do 3x damage. When rolling a 19, it's just 1x damage. Adding damage from
dice result 19 and 20, we have 4x damage. Taking a greatsword, we have 2x
damage on both 19 and 20, wich also sums up to 4x damage.
Mathematically, they are equal, considering only the threat range and damage
multiplyer.

Even when taking the improved criticals feat and keen weapons, they will
remain equal. 15-20/x2 sums up to 12, just as 18-20/x3 + 15-17/x1 does.

Ok, the greatsword has an slight advantage, as ist does 0,5 points of damage
more in average. But when it comes to strike through damage resistances, the
higher criticals of the greataxe will make your day.

"Barry Scott Will" <nwn_usenet.DeleteThis@cavecreations.net> wrote in message
news:EEPkd.601091$8_6.225164@attbi_s04...
> vellu wrote:
> > Two handed style Great axe
> > and Great sword deal fairly equal damage (axe 1d12, sword 2d6) but axe
> > has x3 criticals vs. x2 of the sword.
>
>
> Yes; but, the greatsword has a threat range of 2 (19-20), while the
> greataxe has a threat range of only 1 (20). Mathematically, a higher
> threat range beats a higher crit multiplier in average damage over the
> course of combat. This is especially true if you take the Imp Crit feat,
> and/or get a Keen weapon.
> --
> Barry Scott Will
> Pyric RPG Publications
> http://www.pyric.com/

No.

Let's have a look at it: If you score a critical hit with an twohanded axe,
you do 3x damage. When rolling a 19, it's just 1x damage. Adding damage from
dice result 19 and 20, we have 4x damage. Taking a greatsword, we have 2x
damage on both 19 and 20, wich also sums up to 4x damage.
Mathematically, they are equal, considering only the threat range and damage
multiplyer.

Even when taking the improved criticals feat and keen weapons, they will
remain equal. 15-20/x2 sums up to 12, just as 18-20/x3 + 15-17/x1 does.

Ok, the greatsword has an slight advantage, as ist does 0,5 points of damage
more in average. But when it comes to strike through damage resistances, the
higher criticals of the greataxe will make your day.

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"Insane Ranter" <spam DeleteThis @not.me> wrote in message
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> watch out for the drunken dwarves with red hair as well

lol - Must have met you in a bar somewhere =)

"Insane Ranter" <spam DeleteThis @not.me> wrote in message
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> watch out for the drunken dwarves with red hair as well

lol - Must have met you in a bar somewhere =)

Now, I new there was a reason I just love an axe <grins>
Colin E

"ulf" <kravkalash RemoveThis @t-online.de> wrote in message
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> Let's have a look at it: If you score a critical hit with an twohanded
> axe,
> you do 3x damage. When rolling a 19, it's just 1x damage. Adding damage
> from
> dice result 19 and 20, we have 4x damage. Taking a greatsword, we have 2x
> damage on both 19 and 20, wich also sums up to 4x damage.
> Mathematically, they are equal, considering only the threat range and
> damage
> multiplyer.
>
> Even when taking the improved criticals feat and keen weapons, they will
> remain equal. 15-20/x2 sums up to 12, just as 18-20/x3 + 15-17/x1 does.
>
> Ok, the greatsword has an slight advantage, as ist does 0,5 points of
> damage
> more in average. But when it comes to strike through damage resistances,
> the
> higher criticals of the greataxe will make your day.