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Post USB2 and XP Pro - what the heck!! 
Not a RE-installation - original system was XPHome (on hdd which ultimately
crashed). Installed XPPro on virgin hdd, religiously installed AV, SP2,
and, via Automatic Update, all later updates too, before any other software.

What I didn't do was install the chipset drivers - since rectified. Neither
the original chipset driver, nor the later driver, make an iota of
difference - USB2, which was working fine in XPHome, no longer works
properly on XPPro.
The USB2 card came with XP driver CD ( loaded re-loaded so many times I've
lost count) but the USB2 hub documentation stated it was designed for XP,
would be automatically detected. Which it is, but as "generic", not USB2.
However, a hub without a device is a collection of unused ports - inserting
a flash memory stick in the yields "port overload" message ( but same flash
stick direct into the card port, i.e. NOT using the hub - works fine.

Moment of madness getting Pro, but after all the grief I'm not going back to
Home. Only benefit is it's standalone (versus OEM version of Home).
"Donald L McDaniel" <orthocrossNOSPAM.RemoveThis@skycasters.net> wrote in message
news:5n55e152ilq5p4vuu5hecavv428p5s5t1l@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:25:23 GMT, "Yabbadoo" <nospam.RemoveThis@thank.you> wrote:
>
>
>>"Donald L McDaniel" <orthocrossNOSPAM.RemoveThis@skycasters.net> wrote in message
>>news:jcd2e1tnpvo8hrkvo0gppanncjkvajc54n@4ax.com...
>>> There is no way to upgrade USB 1.1 ports to USB 2.0 ports without
>>> removing and replacing the USB 1.1 ports with USB 2.0 ports.
>>>
>>> USB 1.1 ports are HARDWARE, not SOFTWARE. The only way to upgrade
>>> HARDWARE is by REMOVING and REPLACING IT.
>>>
>>> Once you have the USB 1.1 ports removed and replaced with USB 2.0
>>> ports, you can replace the USB 1.1 DRIVER with a USB 2.0 DRIVER.
>>>
>>> Unless your motherboard supports USB 2.0, and the USB 2.0 port is
>>> installed on the USB 2.0 header (on the motherboard), you will have to
>>> purchase and install a "USB 2.0" hub (piece of hardware) or card..
>>>
>>>
>>> **** NOTE ****
>>> Caps used for emphasis, not yelling.
>>>
>>> Donald L McDaniel
>
>>I had both USB1 (onboard) and USB2 (IDE card) both working on this pc when
>>it had XPHome (as stated originally). It's only after hdd failure, so new
>>hdd, new install of XPPro, that USB2 no longer works.
>>I didn't "upgrade" USB1 to USB2 - Iboth USB1 and USB2 co-existed and
>>worked
>>at correct speeds under XPHome - 6 USB1 ports, 2 USB2 ports on added
>>USB2card, plus USB2 hub plugged into USB2 port and working too.
>>
>
> Did you reinstall XP SP1 or SP2? Both of them install USB2.0 drivers.
> Did you install any USB 2.0 drivers after reinstalling XP? Your
> USB2.0 card probably requires drivers from the manufacturer of the
> card. When I attempted to install the USB2 drivers contained on my
> motherboard installation CD, they told me that XP contains the
> necessary driver. If none were installed when you reinstalled XP,
> download them from Microsoft and install them.
>
> Donald L McDaniel
> Please reply to the original thread.
> If you must reply via email, remove the obvious
> from my email address before sending.
> =======================================================

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Post USB2 and XP Pro - what the heck!! 
Yabbadoo wrote:
> Not a RE-installation - original system was XPHome (on hdd which ultimately
> crashed). Installed XPPro on virgin hdd, religiously installed AV, SP2,
> and, via Automatic Update, all later updates too, before any other software.
>
> What I didn't do was install the chipset drivers - since rectified. Neither
> the original chipset driver, nor the later driver, make an iota of
> difference - USB2, which was working fine in XPHome, no longer works
> properly on XPPro.
> The USB2 card came with XP driver CD ( loaded re-loaded so many times I've
> lost count) but the USB2 hub documentation stated it was designed for XP,
> would be automatically detected. Which it is, but as "generic", not USB2.
> However, a hub without a device is a collection of unused ports - inserting
> a flash memory stick in the yields "port overload" message ( but same flash
> stick direct into the card port, i.e. NOT using the hub - works fine.
>
> Moment of madness getting Pro, but after all the grief I'm not going back to
> Home. Only benefit is it's standalone (versus OEM version of Home).
> "Donald L McDaniel" <orthocrossNOSPAM.RemoveThis@skycasters.net> wrote in message
> news:5n55e152ilq5p4vuu5hecavv428p5s5t1l@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:25:23 GMT, "Yabbadoo" <nospam.RemoveThis@thank.you> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>"Donald L McDaniel" <orthocrossNOSPAM.RemoveThis@skycasters.net> wrote in message
> >>news:jcd2e1tnpvo8hrkvo0gppanncjkvajc54n@4ax.com...
> >>> There is no way to upgrade USB 1.1 ports to USB 2.0 ports without
> >>> removing and replacing the USB 1.1 ports with USB 2.0 ports.
> >>>
> >>> USB 1.1 ports are HARDWARE, not SOFTWARE. The only way to upgrade
> >>> HARDWARE is by REMOVING and REPLACING IT.
> >>>
> >>> Once you have the USB 1.1 ports removed and replaced with USB 2.0
> >>> ports, you can replace the USB 1.1 DRIVER with a USB 2.0 DRIVER.
> >>>
> >>> Unless your motherboard supports USB 2.0, and the USB 2.0 port is
> >>> installed on the USB 2.0 header (on the motherboard), you will have to
> >>> purchase and install a "USB 2.0" hub (piece of hardware) or card..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> **** NOTE ****
> >>> Caps used for emphasis, not yelling.
> >>>
> >>> Donald L McDaniel
> >
> >>I had both USB1 (onboard) and USB2 (IDE card) both working on this pc when
> >>it had XPHome (as stated originally). It's only after hdd failure, so new
> >>hdd, new install of XPPro, that USB2 no longer works.
> >>I didn't "upgrade" USB1 to USB2 - Iboth USB1 and USB2 co-existed and
> >>worked
> >>at correct speeds under XPHome - 6 USB1 ports, 2 USB2 ports on added
> >>USB2card, plus USB2 hub plugged into USB2 port and working too.
> >>
> >
> > Did you reinstall XP SP1 or SP2? Both of them install USB2.0 drivers.
> > Did you install any USB 2.0 drivers after reinstalling XP? Your
> > USB2.0 card probably requires drivers from the manufacturer of the
> > card. When I attempted to install the USB2 drivers contained on my
> > motherboard installation CD, they told me that XP contains the
> > necessary driver. If none were installed when you reinstalled XP,
> > download them from Microsoft and install them.
> >
> > Donald L McDaniel
> > Please reply to the original thread.
> > If you must reply via email, remove the obvious
> > from my email address before sending.
> > =======================================================

Had a very similar problem. New motherboard (VIA chips)has USB2 ports.
New install of XP Pro W/SP2 on CD will set them to 1.1 only. Updated
Bios, uninstalled and reinstalled everything a dozen times to no avail.
Via won't supply drivers 'cause they are in XP. Mobo vendor has same
reason. M$ usual: "We don't write the drivers." Read "SCREW YOU".
Bought a 3 port USB2 card (VIA chip). XP wouldn't set it for USB2
either. Went to card vendors' site and found a file that would make it
"more compatible" (what ever that means). Ran the file and now at least
the add-on card works. Does USB sound like rocket science? Serial
protocols have been around since day one. I've never seen so much
energy spent trying to get something to work. Why can't someone get it
right?

John

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Post USB2 and XP Pro - what the heck!! 
Yabbadoo wrote:
> Not a RE-installation - original system was XPHome (on hdd which ultimately
> crashed). Installed XPPro on virgin hdd, religiously installed AV, SP2,
> and, via Automatic Update, all later updates too, before any other software.
>
> What I didn't do was install the chipset drivers - since rectified. Neither
> the original chipset driver, nor the later driver, make an iota of
> difference - USB2, which was working fine in XPHome, no longer works
> properly on XPPro.
> The USB2 card came with XP driver CD ( loaded re-loaded so many times I've
> lost count) but the USB2 hub documentation stated it was designed for XP,
> would be automatically detected. Which it is, but as "generic", not USB2.
> However, a hub without a device is a collection of unused ports - inserting
> a flash memory stick in the yields "port overload" message ( but same flash
> stick direct into the card port, i.e. NOT using the hub - works fine.
>
> Moment of madness getting Pro, but after all the grief I'm not going back to
> Home. Only benefit is it's standalone (versus OEM version of Home).
> "Donald L McDaniel" <orthocrossNOSPAM RemoveThis @skycasters.net> wrote in message
> news:5n55e152ilq5p4vuu5hecavv428p5s5t1l@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:25:23 GMT, "Yabbadoo" <nospam RemoveThis @thank.you> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>"Donald L McDaniel" <orthocrossNOSPAM RemoveThis @skycasters.net> wrote in message
> >>news:jcd2e1tnpvo8hrkvo0gppanncjkvajc54n@4ax.com...
> >>> There is no way to upgrade USB 1.1 ports to USB 2.0 ports without
> >>> removing and replacing the USB 1.1 ports with USB 2.0 ports.
> >>>
> >>> USB 1.1 ports are HARDWARE, not SOFTWARE. The only way to upgrade
> >>> HARDWARE is by REMOVING and REPLACING IT.
> >>>
> >>> Once you have the USB 1.1 ports removed and replaced with USB 2.0
> >>> ports, you can replace the USB 1.1 DRIVER with a USB 2.0 DRIVER.
> >>>
> >>> Unless your motherboard supports USB 2.0, and the USB 2.0 port is
> >>> installed on the USB 2.0 header (on the motherboard), you will have to
> >>> purchase and install a "USB 2.0" hub (piece of hardware) or card..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> **** NOTE ****
> >>> Caps used for emphasis, not yelling.
> >>>
> >>> Donald L McDaniel
> >
> >>I had both USB1 (onboard) and USB2 (IDE card) both working on this pc when
> >>it had XPHome (as stated originally). It's only after hdd failure, so new
> >>hdd, new install of XPPro, that USB2 no longer works.
> >>I didn't "upgrade" USB1 to USB2 - Iboth USB1 and USB2 co-existed and
> >>worked
> >>at correct speeds under XPHome - 6 USB1 ports, 2 USB2 ports on added
> >>USB2card, plus USB2 hub plugged into USB2 port and working too.
> >>
> >
> > Did you reinstall XP SP1 or SP2? Both of them install USB2.0 drivers.
> > Did you install any USB 2.0 drivers after reinstalling XP? Your
> > USB2.0 card probably requires drivers from the manufacturer of the
> > card. When I attempted to install the USB2 drivers contained on my
> > motherboard installation CD, they told me that XP contains the
> > necessary driver. If none were installed when you reinstalled XP,
> > download them from Microsoft and install them.
> >
> > Donald L McDaniel
> > Please reply to the original thread.
> > If you must reply via email, remove the obvious
> > from my email address before sending.
> > =======================================================

Had a very similar problem. New motherboard (VIA chips)has USB2 ports.
New install of XP Pro W/SP2 on CD will set them to 1.1 only. Updated
Bios, uninstalled and reinstalled everything a dozen times to no avail.
Via won't supply drivers 'cause they are in XP. Mobo vendor has same
reason. M$ usual: "We don't write the drivers." Read "SCREW YOU".
Bought a 3 port USB2 card (VIA chip). XP wouldn't set it for USB2
either. Went to card vendors' site and found a file that would make it
"more compatible" (what ever that means). Ran the file and now at least
the add-on card works. Does USB sound like rocket science? Serial
protocols have been around since day one. I've never seen so much
energy spent trying to get something to work. Why can't someone get it
right?

John

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Be sure that USB 2.0 is turned ON in the BIOS...



--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm



<jjmotz RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1122344343.021510.185660@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Yabbadoo wrote:
| > Not a RE-installation - original system was XPHome (on
hdd which ultimately
| > crashed). Installed XPPro on virgin hdd, religiously
installed AV, SP2,
| > and, via Automatic Update, all later updates too, before
any other software.
| >
| > What I didn't do was install the chipset drivers - since
rectified. Neither
| > the original chipset driver, nor the later driver, make
an iota of
| > difference - USB2, which was working fine in XPHome, no
longer works
| > properly on XPPro.
| > The USB2 card came with XP driver CD ( loaded re-loaded
so many times I've
| > lost count) but the USB2 hub documentation stated it was
designed for XP,
| > would be automatically detected. Which it is, but as
"generic", not USB2.
| > However, a hub without a device is a collection of
unused ports - inserting
| > a flash memory stick in the yields "port overload"
message ( but same flash
| > stick direct into the card port, i.e. NOT using the
hub - works fine.
| >
| > Moment of madness getting Pro, but after all the grief
I'm not going back to
| > Home. Only benefit is it's standalone (versus OEM
version of Home).
| > "Donald L McDaniel" <orthocrossNOSPAM RemoveThis @skycasters.net>
wrote in message
| > news:5n55e152ilq5p4vuu5hecavv428p5s5t1l@4ax.com...
| > > On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:25:23 GMT, "Yabbadoo"
<nospam RemoveThis @thank.you> wrote:
| > >
| > >
| > >>"Donald L McDaniel" <orthocrossNOSPAM RemoveThis @skycasters.net>
wrote in message
| > >>news:jcd2e1tnpvo8hrkvo0gppanncjkvajc54n@4ax.com...
| > >>> There is no way to upgrade USB 1.1 ports to USB 2.0
ports without
| > >>> removing and replacing the USB 1.1 ports with USB
2.0 ports.
| > >>>
| > >>> USB 1.1 ports are HARDWARE, not SOFTWARE. The only
way to upgrade
| > >>> HARDWARE is by REMOVING and REPLACING IT.
| > >>>
| > >>> Once you have the USB 1.1 ports removed and replaced
with USB 2.0
| > >>> ports, you can replace the USB 1.1 DRIVER with a USB
2.0 DRIVER.
| > >>>
| > >>> Unless your motherboard supports USB 2.0, and the
USB 2.0 port is
| > >>> installed on the USB 2.0 header (on the
motherboard), you will have to
| > >>> purchase and install a "USB 2.0" hub (piece of
hardware) or card..
| > >>>
| > >>>
| > >>> **** NOTE ****
| > >>> Caps used for emphasis, not yelling.
| > >>>
| > >>> Donald L McDaniel
| > >
| > >>I had both USB1 (onboard) and USB2 (IDE card) both
working on this pc when
| > >>it had XPHome (as stated originally). It's only after
hdd failure, so new
| > >>hdd, new install of XPPro, that USB2 no longer works.
| > >>I didn't "upgrade" USB1 to USB2 - Iboth USB1 and USB2
co-existed and
| > >>worked
| > >>at correct speeds under XPHome - 6 USB1 ports, 2 USB2
ports on added
| > >>USB2card, plus USB2 hub plugged into USB2 port and
working too.
| > >>
| > >
| > > Did you reinstall XP SP1 or SP2? Both of them install
USB2.0 drivers.
| > > Did you install any USB 2.0 drivers after reinstalling
XP? Your
| > > USB2.0 card probably requires drivers from the
manufacturer of the
| > > card. When I attempted to install the USB2 drivers
contained on my
| > > motherboard installation CD, they told me that XP
contains the
| > > necessary driver. If none were installed when you
reinstalled XP,
| > > download them from Microsoft and install them.
| > >
| > > Donald L McDaniel
| > > Please reply to the original thread.
| > > If you must reply via email, remove the obvious
| > > from my email address before sending.
| > >
=======================================================
|
| Had a very similar problem. New motherboard (VIA chips)has
USB2 ports.
| New install of XP Pro W/SP2 on CD will set them to 1.1
only. Updated
| Bios, uninstalled and reinstalled everything a dozen times
to no avail.
| Via won't supply drivers 'cause they are in XP. Mobo
vendor has same
| reason. M$ usual: "We don't write the drivers." Read
"SCREW YOU".
| Bought a 3 port USB2 card (VIA chip). XP wouldn't set it
for USB2
| either. Went to card vendors' site and found a file that
would make it
| "more compatible" (what ever that means). Ran the file and
now at least
| the add-on card works. Does USB sound like rocket science?
Serial
| protocols have been around since day one. I've never seen
so much
| energy spent trying to get something to work. Why can't
someone get it
| right?
|
| John
|

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Be sure that USB 2.0 is turned ON in the BIOS...



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But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm



<jjmotz.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1122344343.021510.185660@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Yabbadoo wrote:
| > Not a RE-installation - original system was XPHome (on
hdd which ultimately
| > crashed). Installed XPPro on virgin hdd, religiously
installed AV, SP2,
| > and, via Automatic Update, all later updates too, before
any other software.
| >
| > What I didn't do was install the chipset drivers - since
rectified. Neither
| > the original chipset driver, nor the later driver, make
an iota of
| > difference - USB2, which was working fine in XPHome, no
longer works
| > properly on XPPro.
| > The USB2 card came with XP driver CD ( loaded re-loaded
so many times I've
| > lost count) but the USB2 hub documentation stated it was
designed for XP,
| > would be automatically detected. Which it is, but as
"generic", not USB2.
| > However, a hub without a device is a collection of
unused ports - inserting
| > a flash memory stick in the yields "port overload"
message ( but same flash
| > stick direct into the card port, i.e. NOT using the
hub - works fine.
| >
| > Moment of madness getting Pro, but after all the grief
I'm not going back to
| > Home. Only benefit is it's standalone (versus OEM
version of Home).
| > "Donald L McDaniel" <orthocrossNOSPAM.RemoveThis@skycasters.net>
wrote in message
| > news:5n55e152ilq5p4vuu5hecavv428p5s5t1l@4ax.com...
| > > On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:25:23 GMT, "Yabbadoo"
<nospam.RemoveThis@thank.you> wrote:
| > >
| > >
| > >>"Donald L McDaniel" <orthocrossNOSPAM.RemoveThis@skycasters.net>
wrote in message
| > >>news:jcd2e1tnpvo8hrkvo0gppanncjkvajc54n@4ax.com...
| > >>> There is no way to upgrade USB 1.1 ports to USB 2.0
ports without
| > >>> removing and replacing the USB 1.1 ports with USB
2.0 ports.
| > >>>
| > >>> USB 1.1 ports are HARDWARE, not SOFTWARE. The only
way to upgrade
| > >>> HARDWARE is by REMOVING and REPLACING IT.
| > >>>
| > >>> Once you have the USB 1.1 ports removed and replaced
with USB 2.0
| > >>> ports, you can replace the USB 1.1 DRIVER with a USB
2.0 DRIVER.
| > >>>
| > >>> Unless your motherboard supports USB 2.0, and the
USB 2.0 port is
| > >>> installed on the USB 2.0 header (on the
motherboard), you will have to
| > >>> purchase and install a "USB 2.0" hub (piece of
hardware) or card..
| > >>>
| > >>>
| > >>> **** NOTE ****
| > >>> Caps used for emphasis, not yelling.
| > >>>
| > >>> Donald L McDaniel
| > >
| > >>I had both USB1 (onboard) and USB2 (IDE card) both
working on this pc when
| > >>it had XPHome (as stated originally). It's only after
hdd failure, so new
| > >>hdd, new install of XPPro, that USB2 no longer works.
| > >>I didn't "upgrade" USB1 to USB2 - Iboth USB1 and USB2
co-existed and
| > >>worked
| > >>at correct speeds under XPHome - 6 USB1 ports, 2 USB2
ports on added
| > >>USB2card, plus USB2 hub plugged into USB2 port and
working too.
| > >>
| > >
| > > Did you reinstall XP SP1 or SP2? Both of them install
USB2.0 drivers.
| > > Did you install any USB 2.0 drivers after reinstalling
XP? Your
| > > USB2.0 card probably requires drivers from the
manufacturer of the
| > > card. When I attempted to install the USB2 drivers
contained on my
| > > motherboard installation CD, they told me that XP
contains the
| > > necessary driver. If none were installed when you
reinstalled XP,
| > > download them from Microsoft and install them.
| > >
| > > Donald L McDaniel
| > > Please reply to the original thread.
| > > If you must reply via email, remove the obvious
| > > from my email address before sending.
| > >
=======================================================
|
| Had a very similar problem. New motherboard (VIA chips)has
USB2 ports.
| New install of XP Pro W/SP2 on CD will set them to 1.1
only. Updated
| Bios, uninstalled and reinstalled everything a dozen times
to no avail.
| Via won't supply drivers 'cause they are in XP. Mobo
vendor has same
| reason. M$ usual: "We don't write the drivers." Read
"SCREW YOU".
| Bought a 3 port USB2 card (VIA chip). XP wouldn't set it
for USB2
| either. Went to card vendors' site and found a file that
would make it
| "more compatible" (what ever that means). Ran the file and
now at least
| the add-on card works. Does USB sound like rocket science?
Serial
| protocols have been around since day one. I've never seen
so much
| energy spent trying to get something to work. Why can't
someone get it
| right?
|
| John
|

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