Hadron <hadronquark.DeleteThis@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> No.
>
> The PS3 is NOT a Linux machine. This is very simple to understand. The
> PS3 is a machine with it#s own OS. This OS is not Linux.
>
> The PS3 CAN RUN Linux.
>
> It is NOT a Linux machine.
>
> It really is that simple.
>
> I can put a bmw engine into a Rover, but it doesn't make the Rover a BMW
> I am afraid.

So given that definition, is a standard desktop PC a Linux machine?
What about a Sun workstation? Considering just about every major
Linux capable computer platform I can think of was originally
developed with some other OS in mind... what exactly qualifies as a
'Linux machine?'

Thad
--
Yeah, I drank the Open Source cool-aid... Unlike the other brand, it had
all the ingredients on the label.

In article <fo80sv$e9u$3@registered.motzarella.org>,
Hadron <hadronquark.DeleteThis@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>I can put a bmw engine into a Rover, but it doesn't make the Rover a BMW

It makes it a Bover! Or maybe a RoMW...

Hadron <hadronquark DeleteThis @googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> No.
>
> The PS3 is NOT a Linux machine. This is very simple to understand. The
> PS3 is a machine with it#s own OS. This OS is not Linux.
>
> The PS3 CAN RUN Linux.
>
> It is NOT a Linux machine.
>
> It really is that simple.
>
> I can put a bmw engine into a Rover, but it doesn't make the Rover a BMW
> I am afraid.

So given that definition, is a standard desktop PC a Linux machine?
What about a Sun workstation? Considering just about every major
Linux capable computer platform I can think of was originally
developed with some other OS in mind... what exactly qualifies as a
'Linux machine?'

Thad
--
Yeah, I drank the Open Source cool-aid... Unlike the other brand, it had
all the ingredients on the label.

thad05.TakeThisOut-AT-tux.glaci.delete-this.com writes:

> Hadron <hadronquark.TakeThisOut@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> No. It is not.
>>
>> It CAN run Linux. But it, as a product, is NOT a Linux machine in any
>> shape nor form.
>>
>> Give it up Peter you vile,lying, misleading, bottom feeding, pond
>> dwelling low life.
>
> Why do you guys bother to keep going around in circles on this
> topic? It is obvious you are working from different definitions
> of 'Linux machine'. To Hadron it evidently means a system that
> comes with Linux standard. To Rex it obviously means a system
> *capable* of running Linux. By one definition almost no
> system is a Linux machine and by the other almost every system
> is. You are both right... and wrong... and getting very
> repetitive. >

No.

The PS3 is NOT a Linux machine. This is very simple to understand. The
PS3 is a machine with it#s own OS. This OS is not Linux.

The PS3 CAN RUN Linux.

It is NOT a Linux machine.

It really is that simple.

I can put a bmw engine into a Rover, but it doesn't make the Rover a BMW
I am afraid.

<thad05.DeleteThis@tux.glaci.delete-this.com> wrote in message
news:pmfk75-uk6.ln1@tux.glaci.com...
> Hadron <hadronquark.DeleteThis@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> No.
>>
>> The PS3 is NOT a Linux machine. This is very simple to understand. The
>> PS3 is a machine with it#s own OS. This OS is not Linux.
>>
>> The PS3 CAN RUN Linux.
>>
>> It is NOT a Linux machine.
>>
>> It really is that simple.
>>
>> I can put a bmw engine into a Rover, but it doesn't make the Rover a BMW
>> I am afraid.
>


Note: By the definition above a PS2, XBox and XBox360 are *ALL* linux
machines because linux is available for them.


> So given that definition, is a standard desktop PC a Linux machine?
If you turn it on and it automatically boots into Linux then yes. If you can
only get linux by booting from a LiveCD (or equiv.) then no. Don't ask about
dual-booting.


> What about a Sun workstation?
A Solaris machine. If SunOS has been overwritten with Linux then it's now a
Linux machine.


> Considering just about every major Linux capable computer platform I can
> think of was originally developed with some other OS in mind... what
> exactly
> qualifies as a 'Linux machine?'

The "native" OS that the machine runs in it's current form. A standard XBox
can be made to run linux. Would you call that a Linux machine? Probably not.

If someone has a laptop that is "capable" of running Linux except that Linux
has never been installed on that machine and it runs nothing other than
Windows then it's a Windows machine... not a Linux machine. If someone else
took their laptop and wiped the hard drive and installed Linux and that's
the primary OS on the computer that would be a linux machine.





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thad05 RemoveThis @tux.glaci.delete-this.com writes:

> Hadron <hadronquark RemoveThis @googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> No. It is not.
>>
>> It CAN run Linux. But it, as a product, is NOT a Linux machine in any
>> shape nor form.
>>
>> Give it up Peter you vile,lying, misleading, bottom feeding, pond
>> dwelling low life.
>
> Why do you guys bother to keep going around in circles on this
> topic? It is obvious you are working from different definitions
> of 'Linux machine'. To Hadron it evidently means a system that
> comes with Linux standard. To Rex it obviously means a system
> *capable* of running Linux. By one definition almost no
> system is a Linux machine and by the other almost every system
> is. You are both right... and wrong... and getting very
> repetitive. >

No.

The PS3 is NOT a Linux machine. This is very simple to understand. The
PS3 is a machine with it#s own OS. This OS is not Linux.

The PS3 CAN RUN Linux.

It is NOT a Linux machine.

It really is that simple.

I can put a bmw engine into a Rover, but it doesn't make the Rover a BMW
I am afraid.

In article <pmfk75-uk6.ln1.RemoveThis@tux.glaci.com>,
<thad05.RemoveThis@tux.glaci.delete-this.com> wrote:
>
>what exactly qualifies as a 'Linux machine?'
>

A system that ships commercially with linux or one that ships
without an OS but that the vendor supports linux on or one that ships
without an OS but is designed specifically for linux. (Some x86 vendors
build products specially configured for beowulf for instance)

In article <pmfk75-uk6.ln1.RemoveThis@tux.glaci.com>,
<thad05.RemoveThis@tux.glaci.delete-this.com> wrote:
>
>what exactly qualifies as a 'Linux machine?'
>

A system that ships commercially with linux or one that ships
without an OS but that the vendor supports linux on or one that ships
without an OS but is designed specifically for linux. (Some x86 vendors
build products specially configured for beowulf for instance)

In article <47a7863a$0$25998$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>,
Mustafa Korn <korn DeleteThis @redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
>Note: By the definition above a PS2, XBox and XBox360 are *ALL* linux
>machines because linux is available for them.
>

Pffftttt. You can install linux on a Sparc 10 but it's
certainly not a linux machine.

In article <47a7863a$0$25998$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>,
Mustafa Korn <korn RemoveThis @redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
>Note: By the definition above a PS2, XBox and XBox360 are *ALL* linux
>machines because linux is available for them.
>

Pffftttt. You can install linux on a Sparc 10 but it's
certainly not a linux machine.

Meat Plow <meat.DeleteThis@petitmorte.net> writes:

> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:36:58 -0600, thad05 wrote:
>
>> Hadron <hadronquark.DeleteThis@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> No. It is not.
>>>
>>> It CAN run Linux. But it, as a product, is NOT a Linux machine in any
>>> shape nor form.
>>>
>>> Give it up Peter you vile,lying, misleading, bottom feeding, pond
>>> dwelling low life.
>>
>> Why do you guys bother to keep going around in circles on this
>> topic? It is obvious you are working from different definitions
>> of 'Linux machine'. To Hadron it evidently means a system that
>> comes with Linux standard. To Rex it obviously means a system
>> *capable* of running Linux. By one definition almost no
>> system is a Linux machine and by the other almost every system
>> is. You are both right... and wrong... and getting very
>> repetitive. >
>>
>
> Hardon for one likes to argue on about nothing endlessly. Keeps him busy
> in an otherwise pitiful existence.
>

Meat, welcome to COLA. You belong here.

Meat Plow <meat.TakeThisOut@petitmorte.net> writes:

> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:36:58 -0600, thad05 wrote:
>
>> Hadron <hadronquark.TakeThisOut@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> No. It is not.
>>>
>>> It CAN run Linux. But it, as a product, is NOT a Linux machine in any
>>> shape nor form.
>>>
>>> Give it up Peter you vile,lying, misleading, bottom feeding, pond
>>> dwelling low life.
>>
>> Why do you guys bother to keep going around in circles on this
>> topic? It is obvious you are working from different definitions
>> of 'Linux machine'. To Hadron it evidently means a system that
>> comes with Linux standard. To Rex it obviously means a system
>> *capable* of running Linux. By one definition almost no
>> system is a Linux machine and by the other almost every system
>> is. You are both right... and wrong... and getting very
>> repetitive. >
>>
>
> Hardon for one likes to argue on about nothing endlessly. Keeps him busy
> in an otherwise pitiful existence.
>

Meat, welcome to COLA. You belong here.

thad05.TakeThisOut-AT-tux.glaci.delete-this.com writes:

> Hadron <hadronquark.TakeThisOut@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> No.
>>
>> The PS3 is NOT a Linux machine. This is very simple to understand. The
>> PS3 is a machine with it#s own OS. This OS is not Linux.
>>
>> The PS3 CAN RUN Linux.
>>
>> It is NOT a Linux machine.
>>
>> It really is that simple.
>>
>> I can put a bmw engine into a Rover, but it doesn't make the Rover a BMW
>> I am afraid.
>
> So given that definition, is a standard desktop PC a Linux machine?

A "standard PC" is not a Linux machine unless Linux is installed on it.

Are you having some sort of difficulty with such an easy to understand issue?

or do you think that any HW that CAN run linux should be counted as a
Linux machine?

They are potential linux platforms. But *POTENTIAL* does not equal
"is". Otherwise Linux machines would be 100% of the PC market share
.......

Come off it Thad.

thad05 DeleteThis @tux.glaci.delete-this.com writes:

> Hadron <hadronquark DeleteThis @googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> No.
>>
>> The PS3 is NOT a Linux machine. This is very simple to understand. The
>> PS3 is a machine with it#s own OS. This OS is not Linux.
>>
>> The PS3 CAN RUN Linux.
>>
>> It is NOT a Linux machine.
>>
>> It really is that simple.
>>
>> I can put a bmw engine into a Rover, but it doesn't make the Rover a BMW
>> I am afraid.
>
> So given that definition, is a standard desktop PC a Linux machine?

A "standard PC" is not a Linux machine unless Linux is installed on it.

Are you having some sort of difficulty with such an easy to understand issue?

or do you think that any HW that CAN run linux should be counted as a
Linux machine?

They are potential linux platforms. But *POTENTIAL* does not equal
"is". Otherwise Linux machines would be 100% of the PC market share
.......

Come off it Thad.

On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:27:47 -0800 (PST), cc wrote:

> On Feb 4, 5:00 pm, Meat Plow <m... RemoveThis @petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:36:58 -0600, thad05 wrote:
>>> Hadron <hadronqu... RemoveThis @googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> No. It is not.
>>
>>>> It CAN run Linux. But it, as a product, is NOT a Linux machine in any
>>>> shape nor form.
>>
>>>> Give it up Peter you vile,lying, misleading, bottom feeding, pond
>>>> dwelling low life.
>>
>>> Why do you guys bother to keep going around in circles on this
>>> topic?  It is obvious you are working from different definitions
>>> of 'Linux machine'.  To Hadron it evidently means a system that
>>> comes with Linux standard.  To Rex it obviously means a system
>>> *capable* of running Linux.  By one definition almost no
>>> system is a Linux machine and by the other almost every system
>>> is.  You are both right... and wrong... and getting very
>>> repetitive.  >
>>
>> Hardon for one likes to argue on about nothing endlessly. Keeps him busy
>> in an otherwise pitiful existence.
>
> Bold words from someone named Meat Plow.


With a name like that, it looks like he has found the right group!!
The question is though, what search argument got him here.

Haha!

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