On Sat, 28 May 2005 14:53:13 +1200, Kharsis <kharsis.RemoveThis@ihug.co.nz>
wrote:

>Another one you might like to check out is the PrC pack and editor. It
>allows alot of new prestige classes and races.
>
>here is their URL http://nwnprc.netgamers.co.uk/

That sounds very interesting. I am going to grab both editors now.
Thank you.

Mike S. wrote:
> On Fri, 27 May 2005 18:11:22 +0200, Arne Steffens
> <news.15.wackelzahn RemoveThis @spamgourmet.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi Mike,
>>sorry for annoying you. Please let me explain why I answered the way I did.
>>I was wondering why you wanted max HP. The only answer I could find was
>>that you thought the game to be too hard - according to your reply this
>>is not the case. My bad.
>
>
> This is what you said to me --> If you want to cheat, why not use the
> console? <-- now perhaps you meant that in one way, but I read it in
> another. It sounded rude to me. Snide. Fortunately for you, your post
> was the first one that I read, so I wasn't annoyed enough to respond
> impolitely. I did find out that the console wasn't going to help me
> though. =)
>
>
>>I called your try for getting max hp cheating because in my eyes using
>>tools (whether mod, hak, or console) to alter a game into being easier
>>than intended by the developers is cheating. And in my eyes this is bad
>>because when I did it (hey everone does make mistakes sometimes ) it
>>always decreased fun and I had the feeling of not really having succeded.
>
>
> I agree with this completely. No seriously, I agree with everything
> you just said. I get that same exact feeling. But maxing my HP was
> something I had done automatically now for so long in Baldur's Gate, I
> just wanted to do the same in NWN and forget about it. In short, I
> don't get that feeling at all from maxing my HP, so cheating in this
> instance is a non-issue for me.
>
> Finally., someone else in this thread mentioned Leto to me, but I had
> forgotten about it. I will have to check it out, thanks. I want to see
> what it can do besides the HP thing anyway.
Another one you might like to check out is the PrC pack and editor. It
allows alot of new prestige classes and races.

here is their URL http://nwnprc.netgamers.co.uk/

Have fun

Kharsis

On Sat, 28 May 2005 10:14:40 -0400, Mike S. <mike.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> dared
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>On Fri, 27 May 2005 23:01:17 -0600, Kaos <kaos.DeleteThis@invalid.xplornet.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Welcome to Usenet. Our standards are different here - possibly
>>because we do not have the weight of a moderator bearing down on us,
>>allowing us to speak our full minds rather than just the watered-down
>>version.
>
>Moderation isn't the reason a discussion happened on the bioware forum
>rather then the bickering that happened here.

A discussion *did* happen here. Lack of moderation (and the
pre-moderation that comes from a natural desire not to have one's
posts deleted and the account banned) is why it was not the one you
were hoping for.

>>Indeed. Now do stop whining
>
>Stop talking to me and I promise I will.

<shrug> If'n you won't take advice unless it's neatly packed and
sugarcoated, you won't do well on usenet.

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On Sat, 28 May 2005 10:14:40 -0400, Mike S. <mike.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> dared
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>On Fri, 27 May 2005 23:01:17 -0600, Kaos <kaos.DeleteThis@invalid.xplornet.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Welcome to Usenet. Our standards are different here - possibly
>>because we do not have the weight of a moderator bearing down on us,
>>allowing us to speak our full minds rather than just the watered-down
>>version.
>
>Moderation isn't the reason a discussion happened on the bioware forum
>rather then the bickering that happened here.

A discussion *did* happen here. Lack of moderation (and the
pre-moderation that comes from a natural desire not to have one's
posts deleted and the account banned) is why it was not the one you
were hoping for.

>>Indeed. Now do stop whining
>
>Stop talking to me and I promise I will.

<shrug> If'n you won't take advice unless it's neatly packed and
sugarcoated, you won't do well on usenet.

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On Sat, 28 May 2005 15:11:06 -0600, Kaos <kaos.RemoveThis@invalid.xplornet.com>
wrote:

>A discussion *did* happen here. Lack of moderation (and the
>pre-moderation that comes from a natural desire not to have one's
>posts deleted and the account banned) is why it was not the one you
>were hoping for.

Well I certainly wasn't hoping for snide comments. That's what I got
though. This is starting to get old. Good day.

On Sat, 28 May 2005 15:11:06 -0600, Kaos <kaos DeleteThis @invalid.xplornet.com>
wrote:

>A discussion *did* happen here. Lack of moderation (and the
>pre-moderation that comes from a natural desire not to have one's
>posts deleted and the account banned) is why it was not the one you
>were hoping for.

Well I certainly wasn't hoping for snide comments. That's what I got
though. This is starting to get old. Good day.

On Sat, 28 May 2005 20:12:10 -0400, Mike S. <mike.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> dared
speak in front of ME:

>On Sat, 28 May 2005 15:11:06 -0600, Kaos <kaos.RemoveThis@invalid.xplornet.com>
>wrote:
>
>>A discussion *did* happen here. Lack of moderation (and the
>>pre-moderation that comes from a natural desire not to have one's
>>posts deleted and the account banned) is why it was not the one you
>>were hoping for.
>
>Well I certainly wasn't hoping for snide comments. That's what I got
>though.

As I said before: welcome to the world of unmoderated forums. You
would have got them at Bioware too, if not for the pre-moderation
effect I described above.

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On Sat, 28 May 2005 20:12:10 -0400, Mike S. <mike.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> dared
speak in front of ME:

>On Sat, 28 May 2005 15:11:06 -0600, Kaos <kaos.TakeThisOut@invalid.xplornet.com>
>wrote:
>
>>A discussion *did* happen here. Lack of moderation (and the
>>pre-moderation that comes from a natural desire not to have one's
>>posts deleted and the account banned) is why it was not the one you
>>were hoping for.
>
>Well I certainly wasn't hoping for snide comments. That's what I got
>though.

As I said before: welcome to the world of unmoderated forums. You
would have got them at Bioware too, if not for the pre-moderation
effect I described above.

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"Mike S." <mike.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>I cant not believe I am actually redoing my HP each level-up until I
> get max. Haven't done that in quite some time in Baldur's Gate thanks
> to the Ease of Use Mod. Is there something similar for Neverwinter
> Nights that would work with the official Bioware campaign? Thanks.

There is a hack that would allow max points on level up and had cheat keys
that could get back HP, etc. It also gave you maximum gold. It used to
work up to version 1.26ish. Get off your backside and do your own search,
I'm not going to tell you what it is and where to get it.

Since you want to cheat and get max hitpoints on level-up, there are several
options.

Repeat the level-up process until you get the max points (that you already
whined about).

If that is tooooo tedious, use Leto on a saved game and fix it there.

Or the easiest, hit the console and add the extras that way.

If that is tooooo hard for you then quit the game.

John Solerno was correct when he said, "I can't believe you find the game so
hard that you must do this." You don't.

Dave

"Mike S." <mike DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>I cant not believe I am actually redoing my HP each level-up until I
> get max. Haven't done that in quite some time in Baldur's Gate thanks
> to the Ease of Use Mod. Is there something similar for Neverwinter
> Nights that would work with the official Bioware campaign? Thanks.

There is a hack that would allow max points on level up and had cheat keys
that could get back HP, etc. It also gave you maximum gold. It used to
work up to version 1.26ish. Get off your backside and do your own search,
I'm not going to tell you what it is and where to get it.

Since you want to cheat and get max hitpoints on level-up, there are several
options.

Repeat the level-up process until you get the max points (that you already
whined about).

If that is tooooo tedious, use Leto on a saved game and fix it there.

Or the easiest, hit the console and add the extras that way.

If that is tooooo hard for you then quit the game.

John Solerno was correct when he said, "I can't believe you find the game so
hard that you must do this." You don't.

Dave

>
> Or the easiest, hit the console and add the extras that way.
>
> If that is tooooo hard for you then quit the game.
>

Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a console command to adjust HP.
Atleast I don't know such a command. Do you?

>
> Or the easiest, hit the console and add the extras that way.
>
> If that is tooooo hard for you then quit the game.
>

Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a console command to adjust HP.
Atleast I don't know such a command. Do you?

"vellu" <velimala.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Or the easiest, hit the console and add the extras that way.
>>
>> If that is tooooo hard for you then quit the game.
>>
>
> Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a console command to adjust HP.
> Atleast I don't know such a command. Do you?

I do but if I told you I'd have to kill you .

There is a command that works indirectly. I'll give you a hint. Find some
boots of Striding +1. It boosts one of the character's abilities. Set that
a few points higher than the character's current amount and the HP will go
up. To read the commands before they scroll off, pause the game before
entering the console and use the tab key to scroll through. Do a search for
"cheats neverwinter nights" on google, there are heaps of them and the good
ones explain the console commands.

I actually completed the game before I tried the cheats to see the effects.
A person I know found the hack and used that during play when it was PvP but
he was a chronic cheater. It was hard to kill his character. I later tried
it in other games but found it unnecessary. Doing all the quests and
killing all the baddies possible is a more interesting way of playing the
game and you tend to get the maximum XP points possible which also helps the
HP as well. It also makes the game last longer but then again, some people
are impatient. I'm not. Don't forget, there are some feats that boost HP
as well so don't be hasty during level-up and read through the feat
descriptions before moving on through the process.

There are a few spots in the OC that can respawn baddies so you can hang
there killing them and get lots of experience points. In the beginning you
get lots of experience points per kill but after a while the amount drops to
just a few and then it gets tedious.

Anyway, you really don't need the cheats, just take your time to play
through, explore everywhere and try to enjoy the game even though it can be
frustrating at times.

Dave

"vellu" <velimala.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Or the easiest, hit the console and add the extras that way.
>>
>> If that is tooooo hard for you then quit the game.
>>
>
> Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a console command to adjust HP.
> Atleast I don't know such a command. Do you?

I do but if I told you I'd have to kill you .

There is a command that works indirectly. I'll give you a hint. Find some
boots of Striding +1. It boosts one of the character's abilities. Set that
a few points higher than the character's current amount and the HP will go
up. To read the commands before they scroll off, pause the game before
entering the console and use the tab key to scroll through. Do a search for
"cheats neverwinter nights" on google, there are heaps of them and the good
ones explain the console commands.

I actually completed the game before I tried the cheats to see the effects.
A person I know found the hack and used that during play when it was PvP but
he was a chronic cheater. It was hard to kill his character. I later tried
it in other games but found it unnecessary. Doing all the quests and
killing all the baddies possible is a more interesting way of playing the
game and you tend to get the maximum XP points possible which also helps the
HP as well. It also makes the game last longer but then again, some people
are impatient. I'm not. Don't forget, there are some feats that boost HP
as well so don't be hasty during level-up and read through the feat
descriptions before moving on through the process.

There are a few spots in the OC that can respawn baddies so you can hang
there killing them and get lots of experience points. In the beginning you
get lots of experience points per kill but after a while the amount drops to
just a few and then it gets tedious.

Anyway, you really don't need the cheats, just take your time to play
through, explore everywhere and try to enjoy the game even though it can be
frustrating at times.

Dave

On Mon, 30 May 2005 08:17:04 GMT, "Dave" <dave2972 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

>Since you want to cheat and get max hitpoints on level-up, there are several
>options.
>
>Repeat the level-up process until you get the max points (that you already
>whined about).
>
>If that is tooooo tedious, use Leto on a saved game and fix it there.
>
>Or the easiest, hit the console and add the extras that way.
>
>If that is tooooo hard for you then quit the game.

Truthfully, I really don't get the attitude in this thread. Quite
honestly, why do you feel the need to insult him and accuse him of
whining. He didn't come in here whining. He asked a question. Why
do you feel so superior to him? I honestly would like to know. What
difference does it make how he plays the game? It's single player,
who cares? Is there some underlying macho logic at work here that
says anyone who cheats is a "less than" person deserving disrespect?
Alex